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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Daniel Barkalow <barkalow@iabervon.org>
Cc: Richard Heck <rgheck@bobjweil.com>,
	Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>, Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>,
	Calvin Walton <calvin.walton@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ide Mailing list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:34:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080129193403.62fe95e8@core> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0801291354240.13593@iabervon.org>

> I've seen a lot of verbosity out of SCSI messages, but I haven't seen a 
> straightforward interpretation of the problem in there. It's all 
> information useful for debugging, not information useful for system 
> administration.

It tells you what is going on. Unfortunately that frequently requires
some basic knowledge of how to interpret the error report. Drive
interface behaviour simply doesn't boil down to a fault light on the
dashboard or a "tighten the cable". For most common fault types you'll
get errors most administrators should find meaningful - like "Media error"

> On the other hand, bringing the system down because a device is 
> misbehaving is a poor idea. I've personally recovered most of the data off 

Hence we have RAID and SATA hotplug.

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-29 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-28  2:22 Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24 Gene Heskett
2008-01-28  3:19 ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-01-28  8:17 ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-01-28 12:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-28 12:26     ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-01-28 12:45       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-28 12:54     ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 13:19       ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 13:57       ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-01-28 16:35         ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 16:50           ` Calvin Walton
2008-01-28 17:20             ` Zan Lynx
2008-01-28 17:30               ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 17:44                 ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 17:59                 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-28 18:23                   ` Richard Heck
2008-01-28 18:53                     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2008-01-28 19:09                       ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 19:21                         ` Andrey Borzenkov
2008-01-28 19:31                           ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 20:00                       ` Richard Heck
2008-01-28 20:01                     ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-29  0:05                       ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29  0:34                         ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-29  1:31                           ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29  1:51                             ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-29  4:48                             ` Michal Jaegermann
2008-01-29 12:12                     ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 14:30                       ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29 14:51                       ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29 15:47                         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 16:32                           ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29 16:48                             ` Mikael Pettersson
2008-01-29 17:04                               ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29 17:38                                 ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-29 17:44                                   ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 18:12                                     ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-29 17:59                                   ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29 18:54                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 22:41                                   ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29 22:48                                     ` Alan Cox
2008-01-30  0:19                                     ` rgheck
2008-01-30  0:19                                     ` Mark Lord
2008-01-29 17:06                       ` rgheck
2008-01-29 17:12                         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 17:24                           ` rgheck
2008-01-29 17:40                             ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 18:11                         ` Mark Lord
2008-01-29 18:28                           ` rgheck
2008-01-29 18:32                             ` Mark Lord
2008-01-29 18:14                       ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-29 18:46                         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 19:14                           ` Daniel Barkalow
2008-01-29 19:34                             ` Alan Cox [this message]
2008-01-28 16:56           ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 18:20             ` Mark Lord
2008-01-28 18:59               ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 20:43                 ` Mark Lord
2008-01-29  0:06                   ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29  3:16                     ` Mark Lord
2008-01-29  4:07                       ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 17:06           ` Dave Neuer
2008-01-29  4:23           ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-01-29  4:49             ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29  5:01               ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-02-02  7:13                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-28 14:44       ` Richard Heck
2008-01-28 17:01         ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 18:38       ` Mark Lord
2008-01-28 20:01         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-28 20:29           ` Mark Lord
2008-01-28 18:54 ` Mark Lord
2008-01-28 19:01   ` Mark Lord
2008-01-28 19:04   ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 20:22     ` Mark Lord
2008-01-28 20:32       ` Mark Lord
2008-01-29  0:10       ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-28 19:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-28 19:13   ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29  6:41     ` Florian Attenberger
2008-01-29 15:04       ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29 16:12         ` Mark Lord
2008-01-29 16:36           ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29 18:09             ` Mark Lord
2008-01-29 16:50           ` rgheck
2008-01-29 16:58         ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-29 17:12           ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29 17:32             ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-29 17:53               ` Gene Heskett
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     [not found] ` <fa.fCSKKy5aVmh9IomaWmc+Y8P16+c@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.ebGd1717PgKMzHUmaQOLoLkFdsI@ifi.uio.no>
2008-01-29  0:19     ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-29  0:55       ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29  1:31         ` Robert Hancock
2008-01-29  1:51           ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29  2:20             ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29  3:21               ` Mark Lord
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-29 17:42 Adam Turk
2008-01-29 17:55 ` Gene Heskett
2008-01-29 22:57   ` Adam Turk

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