From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1JKWzx-0002vf-Cc for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:50:25 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKWzu-0002uK-MA for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:50:22 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKWzr-0002sw-76 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:50:21 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKWzr-0002sq-1j for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:50:19 -0500 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKWzr-0000zm-1r for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:50:19 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.6] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JKWzf-0005yN-Ag for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:50:07 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JKWxb-0002tH-Bl for grub-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:47:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:47:59 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20080131104759.GA10889@thorin> References: <20080128090910.GC13368@thorin> <20080128093028.GA29689@thorin> <1201527891.15848.6.camel@dv> <20080128162900.GA9715@thorin> <877ihtc9h4.fsf@xs4all.nl> <1201729345.8103.36.camel@dv> <20080130220320.GB6731@thorin> <1201731303.8103.41.camel@dv> <20080130222628.GB7679@thorin> <1201733294.8103.67.camel@dv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1201733294.8103.67.camel@dv> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: GRUB_MOD_GAP for non-ieee1275 ELF platforms X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:50:23 -0000 On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 05:48:14PM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote: > On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 23:26 +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > > I only said "I assume" because there is a subtle difference between a > > > "valid ELF file" and "indistinguishable for kernel.elf". It should be > > > valid and acceptable to the OpenFirmware, and the later is a black box > > > to me. > > > > Uhm.. I wonder what'd happen if you pre-link all the stuff into kernel.elf. > > I tried to prelink "apple" and "hfs" by changing the makefiles. The > functionality wasn't available. It makes sense, because the core > doesn't know that the modules are linked. The modules are never > registered with the core. You can easily work around that by removing the GRUB_MOD_INIT() wrap and calling the functions manually. However, to determine if the "CLAIM failed" problem also affects "sane" elven, you don't need to initialize these modules, just link them in. > It would be nice to have some linker trick to tell the code about the > prelinked modules. That could make grub-mkimage a very thin wrapper > around "ld -r", perhaps written as a shell script. Sure it would. Shouldn't be too hard, geninit.sh does half of what you want already. -- Robert Millan I know my rights; I want my phone call! What use is a phone call… if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.)