From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pierre Habouzit Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.4 Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:38:04 +0100 Message-ID: <20080203103804.GC323@artemis.madism.org> References: <7vmyqk563z.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> <87k5lnwvzd.dancerj%dancer@netfort.gr.jp> <878x22j1km.dancerj%dancer@netfort.gr.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="ALfTUftag+2gvp1h"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=SHA1 Cc: git@vger.kernel.org To: Junichi Uekawa X-From: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Sun Feb 03 11:38:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gcvg-git-2@gmane.org Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.132.176.167]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JLcFH-0001AT-HX for gcvg-git-2@gmane.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:38:43 +0100 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753653AbYBCKiL (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:38:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753462AbYBCKiK (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:38:10 -0500 Received: from pan.madism.org ([88.191.52.104]:54581 "EHLO hermes.madism.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753376AbYBCKiI (ORCPT ); Sun, 3 Feb 2008 05:38:08 -0500 Received: from madism.org (olympe.madism.org [82.243.245.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "artemis.madism.org", Issuer "madism.org" (not verified)) by hermes.madism.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C46931FD2; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:38:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by madism.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DF00A468A3C; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:38:04 +0100 (CET) Mail-Followup-To: Pierre Habouzit , Junichi Uekawa , git@vger.kernel.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <878x22j1km.dancerj%dancer@netfort.gr.jp> X-Face: $(^e[V4D-[`f2EmMGz@fgWK!e.B~2g.{08lKPU(nc1J~z\4B>*JEVq:E]7G-\6$Ycr4<;Z!|VY6Grt]+RsS$IMV)f>2)M="tY:ZPcU;&%it2D81X^kNya0=L]"vZmLP+UmKhgq+u*\.dJ8G!N&=EvlD User-Agent: Madmutt/devel (Linux) Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org Archived-At: --ALfTUftag+2gvp1h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 01:00:57AM +0000, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Hi, >=20 >=20 > When I was idly googling around for traces of VCS and popularity, > noticed that Git is actually pretty popular. Googling for 'gitweb' > and 'viewcvs' and other comparative web-frontend variants floating in > the cyberspace I get these number of hits (in rough estimate) : >=20 > 10000000 CVS > 1000000 SVN > 100000 Git > 10000 Mercurial / Darcs > 1000 Bzr >=20 > This is crude, and I'm sure someone else will come up with a better > estimate. The point is, when there are so many users, people don't > read the lists or the changelog, but rely on manuals, and be surprised > with this change. http://www.google.com/trends?q=3Dsvn%2C+git%2C+mercurial%2C+bzr%2C+darcs&= ctab=3D0&geo=3Dall&date=3Dall&sort=3D0 :) > I was wondering why I use the git-xxx format so much (in muscle, and > in scripts). And realized I have the following reasons: >=20 > 1. That's the form documented in the manual pages (generated from asciido= c) >=20 > 2. That's the name manual pages are in. >=20 > 3. Linus said it's better (3 years ago), and I thought so too. > (Situation has changed, bash has better completion for 'git' > commands, so that's no longer valid) >=20 > 4. There was a GNU Interactive Tools with the same name 'git', so it > was better to avoid confusion then. (This is still the case with > Debian, where the sysadmin can choose whether to make 'git' (GNU > Interactive Tools) the default, or our beloved git. >=20 > 5. There are many documentations floating around. >=20 > 6. I'm used to it. Yes, but your aliases are not usable through git-foo, only git foo is. So for consistency reasons, non dashed versions are better. And one could in the future have builtin commands without the corresponding git-foo and git-bar either. I'm thinking git-revert/git-cherry-pick that use _exactly_ the same code and code objects, hence having the two binary is somehow a waste of space. git-log variants are the same, and so on. I'm not saying this _will_ be done, TTBOMK it has not even been discussed, but that may happen at some point. --=20 =C2=B7O=C2=B7 Pierre Habouzit =C2=B7=C2=B7O madcoder@debia= n.org OOO http://www.madism.org --ALfTUftag+2gvp1h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHpZmMvGr7W6HudhwRAuqPAJ9Ligx1z2fdiWN0JfqFuouNve24JgCcDLtF lJZ1Douo/DQdshrreVb/pW4= =DvZy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ALfTUftag+2gvp1h--