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From: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>, Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>, Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	steiner@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v5
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:12:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080205221221.GP17211@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802051400200.14665@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 02:06:23PM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 10:17:41AM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > The other approach will not have any remote ptes at that point. Why would 
> > > there be a coherency issue?
> > 
> > It never happens that two threads writes to two different physical
> > pages by working on the same process virtual address. This is an issue
> > only for KVM which is probably ok with it but certainly you can't
> > consider the dependency on the page-pin less fragile or less complex
> > than my PT lock approach.
> 
> You can avoid the page-pin and the pt lock completely by zapping the 
> mappings at _start and then holding off new references until _end.

XPMEM is doing this by putting our equivalent structure of the mm into a
recalling state which will cause all future faulters to back off, it then
marks any currently active faults in the range as invalid (we have a very
small number of possible concurrent faulters for a different reason),
proceeds to start remote shoot-downs, waits for those shoot-downs to
complete, then returns from the _begin callout with the mm-equiv still in
the recalling state.  Additional recalls may occur, but no new faults can.
The _end callout reduces the number of active recalls until there are
none left at which point the faulters are allowed to proceed again.

Thanks,
Robin

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From: Robin Holt <holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra
	<a.p.zijlstra-/NLkJaSkS4VmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	steiner-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	daniel.blueman-xqY44rlHlBpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	Robin Holt <holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v5
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:12:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080205221221.GP17211@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802051400200.14665-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 02:06:23PM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 10:17:41AM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > The other approach will not have any remote ptes at that point. Why would 
> > > there be a coherency issue?
> > 
> > It never happens that two threads writes to two different physical
> > pages by working on the same process virtual address. This is an issue
> > only for KVM which is probably ok with it but certainly you can't
> > consider the dependency on the page-pin less fragile or less complex
> > than my PT lock approach.
> 
> You can avoid the page-pin and the pt lock completely by zapping the 
> mappings at _start and then holding off new references until _end.

XPMEM is doing this by putting our equivalent structure of the mm into a
recalling state which will cause all future faulters to back off, it then
marks any currently active faults in the range as invalid (we have a very
small number of possible concurrent faulters for a different reason),
proceeds to start remote shoot-downs, waits for those shoot-downs to
complete, then returns from the _begin callout with the mm-equiv still in
the recalling state.  Additional recalls may occur, but no new faults can.
The _end callout reduces the number of active recalls until there are
none left at which point the faulters are allowed to proceed again.

Thanks,
Robin

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From: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>, Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>, Izik Eidus <izike@qumranet.com>,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	steiner@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, daniel.blueman@quadrics.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v5
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:12:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080205221221.GP17211@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0802051400200.14665@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 02:06:23PM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 10:17:41AM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > The other approach will not have any remote ptes at that point. Why would 
> > > there be a coherency issue?
> > 
> > It never happens that two threads writes to two different physical
> > pages by working on the same process virtual address. This is an issue
> > only for KVM which is probably ok with it but certainly you can't
> > consider the dependency on the page-pin less fragile or less complex
> > than my PT lock approach.
> 
> You can avoid the page-pin and the pt lock completely by zapping the 
> mappings at _start and then holding off new references until _end.

XPMEM is doing this by putting our equivalent structure of the mm into a
recalling state which will cause all future faulters to back off, it then
marks any currently active faults in the range as invalid (we have a very
small number of possible concurrent faulters for a different reason),
proceeds to start remote shoot-downs, waits for those shoot-downs to
complete, then returns from the _begin callout with the mm-equiv still in
the recalling state.  Additional recalls may occur, but no new faults can.
The _end callout reduces the number of active recalls until there are
none left at which point the faulters are allowed to proceed again.

Thanks,
Robin

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Thread overview: 181+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-31  4:57 [patch 0/3] [RFC] MMU Notifiers V4 Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 1/3] mmu_notifier: Core code Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:56   ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  1:56     ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  1:56     ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  2:24     ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:24       ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:24       ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:37       ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  2:37         ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  2:37         ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  2:39         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:39           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:39           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:31   ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:31     ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:31     ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:39     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:39       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:39       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:47       ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:47         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:47         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  3:01         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:01           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:01           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:01       ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  3:01         ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  3:01         ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-01  3:03         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:03           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:03           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:52   ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  3:52     ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  3:52     ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  3:58     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:58       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  3:58       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  4:15       ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  4:15         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  4:15         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-03  1:33       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-03  1:33         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-03  1:33         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-04 19:13         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-04 19:13           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-04 19:13           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 2/3] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 12:31   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 12:31     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 12:31     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 20:07     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 20:07       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 20:07       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:01     ` mmu_notifier: close hole in fork Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:01       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:01       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:16       ` mmu_notifier: reduce size of mm_struct if !CONFIG_MMU_NOTIFIER Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:16         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:16         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:21       ` mmu_notifier: Move mmu_notifier_release up to get rid of the invalidat_all() callback Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:21         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 22:21         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  0:13         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  0:13           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  0:13           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:52           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:52             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:52             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:57           ` mmu_notifier: invalidate_range for move_page_tables Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:57             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:57             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:38             ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:38               ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:38               ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:41               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:41                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:41                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  0:01       ` mmu_notifier: close hole in fork Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  0:01         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  0:01         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:48         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:48           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:48           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  4:24   ` [patch 2/3] mmu_notifier: Callbacks to invalidate address ranges Robin Holt
2008-02-01  4:24     ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  4:24     ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  4:43     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  4:43       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  4:43       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 10:32       ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01 10:32         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01 10:32         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01 10:37         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01 10:37           ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01 19:13         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 19:13           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 19:13           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57 ` [patch 3/3] mmu_notifier: invalidate_page callbacks Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31  4:57   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 17:18 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v5 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 17:18   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 17:18   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 20:18   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 20:18     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 20:18     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:09     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:09       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:41       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 23:41         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 23:41         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:44         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:44           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:44           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 12:09           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01 12:09             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01 12:09             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01 19:23             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 19:23               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 19:23               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-03  2:17               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-03  2:17                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-03  2:17                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-03  3:14                 ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-03  3:14                   ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-03  3:14                   ` Jack Steiner
2008-02-03  3:33                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-03  3:33                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-03  3:33                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-04 19:09                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-04 19:09                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-04 19:09                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05  5:25                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05  5:25                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05  6:11                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05  6:11                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05  6:11                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 18:08                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 18:08                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 18:08                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 18:17                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 18:17                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 18:17                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 20:55                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 20:55                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 20:55                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 22:06                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 22:06                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 22:06                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 22:12                               ` Robin Holt [this message]
2008-02-05 22:12                                 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-05 22:12                                 ` Robin Holt
2008-02-05 22:26                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 22:26                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 22:26                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 23:10                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 23:10                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 23:10                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-05 23:47                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 23:47                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-05 23:47                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-06  0:04                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-06  0:04                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-06  0:04                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-31 23:28     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-31 23:28       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01  1:37       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:37         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  1:37         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:23         ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:23           ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:23           ` Robin Holt
2008-02-01  2:26           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:26             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01  2:26             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-02-01 12:00         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01 12:00           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-02-01 12:00           ` Andrea Arcangeli

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