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From: Phil Oester <kernel@linuxace.com>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: mouss <mouss@netoyen.net>,
	"Jozsef Kadlecsik" <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>,
	"Micha³ Miros³aw" <mirq-linux@rere.qmqm.pl>,
	"Netfilter Developer Mailing List"
	<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Allowing non-root to get iptables info?
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:43:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080227154320.GB20024@linuxace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47C5830E.3070500@trash.net>

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 04:34:38PM +0100, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> Phil Oester wrote:
> >I really don't think this is a good idea.  We allow non-root users
> >on some of our firewalls, and I don't want them to see the ruleset.
> >Also, it helps miscreants to better pick their targets, if they
> >know in advance which ports are opened.
> 
> 
> They could also find out about this simply by probing ports ...

And assuming a /16 with 65K ports, that would take a bit longer than
the few seconds it takes to dump the ruleset.  Why make it easier
than it has to be?

> >If making this change, *please* consider making it configurable,
> >with the default being NO access.
> 
> 
> No, in that case I prefer to keep it restricted to root
> unconditionally. Using sudo to get the rules is no big
> deal I guess.

Seconded.

Phil

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-27 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080225094951.5bd89c9c@extreme>
2008-02-27 11:52 ` [RFC] Allowing non-root to get iptables info? Patrick McHardy
2008-02-27 12:31   ` Michał Mirosław
2008-02-27 12:43     ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-27 12:59       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2008-02-27 13:04         ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-27 14:39           ` mouss
2008-02-27 14:51             ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-27 15:31               ` Phil Oester
2008-02-27 15:34                 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-27 15:43                   ` Phil Oester [this message]
2008-02-27 16:34                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-02-27 16:53                       ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-27 17:48                   ` mouss
2008-02-27 16:51             ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-02-27 12:18 ` Patrick McHardy
2008-02-28  9:18 ` Harald Welte

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