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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Pierre Ossman <drzeus-mmc@drzeus.cx>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Zdenek Kabelac <zdenek.kabelac@gmail.com>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bugs in MMC [was: [Bug 10030] Suspend doesn't work when SD card is inserted]
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 01:44:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200803040144.09601.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080304070357.61ee825b@mjolnir.drzeus.cx>

On Monday 03 March 2008, Pierre Ossman wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:59:37 -0800
> David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Card insert/remove events can be system wake events though.  Which
> > makes that restriction impractical.

This part seems to be ignored by your comment ... wake events.


> > I think hosts need to be able to call mmc_detect_change() as soon as
> > they see a stable signal.  The MMC core can hold off handling that
> > for a while, if it needs to wait until the code walking the device
> > tree gets around to resuming that host.  It's a lot more natural to
> > hold off such stuff one time there than in N host drivers; especially
> > since the MMC core already has such hold-off code.
> > 
> 
> That actually sorts itself out as the MMC core reprobes on wakeup, but
> I see your point. Right now things will work peachy if the controllers
> just make sure to disable their card detection logic before telling the
> core to suspend.   

That is, the MMC core doesn't understand wakeup events.

Or, as pointed out elsewhere, well-behaved MMC hosts ... which don't
need either such reprobing or the associated remove-on-suspend.

- Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-04  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080219232338.E9A24108068@picon.linux-foundation.org>
2008-02-20 16:42 ` [Bug 10030] Suspend doesn't work when SD card is inserted Alan Stern
2008-02-20 17:30   ` Pierre Ossman
2008-02-20 19:26     ` Alan Stern
2008-02-20 20:51       ` Pierre Ossman
2008-02-20 20:58         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 21:06         ` Alan Stern
2008-02-20 22:15           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-20 22:24             ` Alan Stern
2008-02-20 22:41               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21  0:02               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 16:27                 ` Alan Stern
2008-02-21 16:38                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 17:48                     ` Alan Stern
2008-02-21 22:47                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-21 23:05                         ` Alan Stern
2008-02-23  1:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23  4:39                             ` Alan Stern
2008-02-23 20:16                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-23 23:29                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24  0:19                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24  0:19                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24  3:25                                     ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24  4:26                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24  4:26                                       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-02-24 14:00                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 15:33                                           ` Bugs in MMC [was: [Bug 10030] Suspend doesn't work when SD card is inserted] Alan Stern
2008-02-25 17:41                                             ` Pierre Ossman
2008-02-25 17:41                                             ` Pierre Ossman
2008-02-25 17:58                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-02-25 18:31                                                 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-02-25 20:00                                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-03-01 14:11                                                     ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-01 14:11                                                     ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-01 14:36                                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-03-01 14:36                                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-03-01 14:47                                                         ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-01 14:47                                                         ` Pierre Ossman
2008-02-25 20:00                                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-02-25 18:31                                                 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-02-25 17:58                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-02-25 22:51                                               ` Felipe Balbi
2008-02-25 22:51                                               ` Felipe Balbi
2008-03-03 21:59                                               ` David Brownell
2008-03-04  6:03                                                 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-04  9:44                                                   ` David Brownell [this message]
2008-03-04  9:58                                                     ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-06 21:23                                                       ` David Brownell
2008-03-06 21:23                                                       ` David Brownell
2008-03-04  9:58                                                     ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-04 17:53                                                     ` Alan Stern
2008-03-04 18:53                                                       ` David Brownell
2008-03-04 18:53                                                       ` David Brownell
2008-03-04 19:51                                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-03-04 20:30                                                           ` David Brownell
2008-03-04 20:30                                                           ` David Brownell
2008-03-04 21:00                                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-03-06 15:55                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-06 15:55                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-06 20:33                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-06 20:53                                                                   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2008-03-06 21:31                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-06 21:31                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-06 20:53                                                                   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2008-03-06 20:33                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-04 21:00                                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-03-04 19:51                                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-03-04 17:53                                                     ` Alan Stern
2008-03-04  9:44                                                   ` David Brownell
2008-03-04  6:03                                                 ` Pierre Ossman
2008-03-04 17:50                                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-04 17:50                                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-03-03 21:59                                               ` David Brownell
2008-02-24 15:33                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 14:00                                         ` [Bug 10030] Suspend doesn't work when SD card is inserted Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 13:33                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 13:33                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 20:25                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 20:45                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 20:56                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 20:56                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 21:11                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 22:18                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 22:18                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 21:11                                               ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 20:45                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 20:25                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 13:51                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 19:27                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 19:42                                           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2008-02-24 19:42                                           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2008-02-24 20:09                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 20:09                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 19:27                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 13:51                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 18:21                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-24 18:21                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-24 19:03                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 19:03                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 20:11                                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-24 20:33                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 20:33                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 21:42                                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-24 22:21                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-25  2:21                                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-02-25 11:41                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                       ` <c4e36d110802250402q7312a488idf752e07db7504e8@mail.gmail.com>
2008-02-25 12:31                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-25 12:31                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-25 11:41                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-25  2:21                                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-02-24 22:21                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-25  2:19                                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-02-25  2:19                                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-02-25  9:03                                                   ` using long instead of atomic_t when only set/read is required (was Re: [Bug 10030] Suspend doesn't work when SD card is inserted) Pavel Machek
2008-02-25  9:03                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-25 14:46                                                     ` Alan Stern
2008-03-03 12:08                                                       ` [patch] Re: using long instead of atomic_t when only set/read is required Pavel Machek
2008-03-03 15:42                                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-03-03 15:42                                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-03-03 15:53                                                           ` Alan Cox
2008-03-03 17:11                                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-03-03 17:11                                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-03-03 17:26                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-03 17:26                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-03 17:44                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-03 17:44                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-03 19:27                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-03-03 19:27                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-03-06 15:58                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-06 16:11                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-06 16:11                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-06 16:27                                                                     ` Mark Lord
2008-03-06 16:27                                                                     ` Mark Lord
2008-03-06 15:58                                                                 ` Mark Lord
2008-03-03 17:16                                                             ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 17:16                                                               ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 17:31                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-03-03 17:31                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-03-03 17:33                                                               ` Alan Cox
2008-03-03 17:33                                                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-03 15:53                                                           ` Alan Cox
2008-03-03 17:22                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-03-03 17:22                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-03-03 15:48                                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-03-03 17:24                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-03 17:24                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-03 20:27                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-03 21:12                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-03-03 21:12                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-03-03 22:23                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-03 22:23                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-03 20:27                                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-04 23:32                                                             ` Peter Hartley
2008-03-04 23:54                                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-05  0:26                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-03-03 15:48                                                         ` Alan Cox
2008-03-03 12:08                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-25 14:46                                                     ` using long instead of atomic_t when only set/read is required (was Re: [Bug 10030] Suspend doesn't work when SD card is inserted) Alan Stern
2008-02-25 11:40                                                   ` [Bug 10030] Suspend doesn't work when SD card is inserted Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-25 11:40                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-02-24 21:42                                               ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-24 20:11                                           ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-24  3:25                                     ` Alan Stern

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