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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>,
	Anders Eriksson <aeriksson@fastmail.fm>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.25-rc4
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:31:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080316203109.50e8c526@core> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0803161238190.3020@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:39:43 -0700 (PDT)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Alan Cox wrote:
> > 
> > No it doesn't. DRQ simply means "drive has more data for the controller
> > if you want it". Interrupts are controlled via IEN and the interrupt line.
> 
> A _lot_ of chips require you to clear the DRQ by taking the data they 
> have.

Almost none and mostly very old ones. I'm not saying we shouldn't do it
(except where it hangs the hardware - hence the FIFO flag) but for the
traces presented and hardware reported it appears to be a bit of a red
herring.

> > If the drive wants to give us data and we end the transaction that is
> > fine. In practice a tiny few devices crap themselves if we don't.
> 
> More than a few tiny devices from what I remember. It tends to be the 
> other way around - most devices do *not* want to get new commands until 
> you've finished the previous one by draining the queues.

Not in my experience having maintained a lot of ATA drivers for a very
long time. In fact the changes for draining the DRQ went into libata only
very recently because it was only when we had a distro sized userbase
with PATA devices that it became apparent that a few corner case problems
remained.

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-16 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-05  5:03 Linux 2.6.25-rc4 Linus Torvalds
2008-03-05  8:09 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-03-05 16:46   ` Grant Grundler
2008-03-06  9:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-06 12:59   ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-06 13:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-06 13:12       ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-07  8:53       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-07  8:57         ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-07  9:02           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-07  9:59             ` Paul Mackerras
2008-03-07 15:20           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-03-08 23:36         ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-09 11:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-09 12:55           ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-10 10:10             ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-10 11:52               ` Andi Kleen
2008-03-06 13:38     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-06 13:33       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-06 14:06         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-06 13:55           ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-06 21:17             ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-07  8:48               ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-07 22:04                 ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-08 20:22                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-08 21:05                     ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-10  8:55                       ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-10 12:36                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-10 13:10                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-10 14:04                             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-16 14:01                               ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-16 14:29                                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-16 14:29                                   ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-16 15:14                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-16 16:56                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-16 17:13                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-16 18:18                                     ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-16 18:07                                   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-16 18:13                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-16 18:36                                       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-16 19:08                                         ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-16 18:56                                       ` Alan Cox
2008-03-16 19:39                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-16 20:31                                           ` Alan Cox [this message]
2008-03-16 21:06                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-21 15:03                                             ` Mark Lord
2008-03-21 14:49                                               ` Alan Cox
2008-03-16 19:54                                       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-16 22:59                                         ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-16 23:27                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-17 21:09                                             ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-17 22:52                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-18  0:18                                                 ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-18 13:03                                                   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-18 13:32                                                     ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-18 14:48                                                       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-18 15:10                                                         ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-18 15:41                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-18 16:30                                                         ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-18 16:47                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-18 21:02                                                             ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-19  1:21                                                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-19  1:28                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-19  3:24                                                             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-19  3:28                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-19  3:56                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-19  4:03                                                                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-19  4:48                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-19 11:14                                                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-16 18:23                                     ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-16 18:26                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-16 18:25                                       ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-17  7:23                                       ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-16 18:44                                   ` Alan Cox
2008-03-10 13:19                           ` Anders Eriksson
2008-03-10 13:56                             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2008-03-16 18:59     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2008-03-07 10:08 ` [patch] drivers/char/esp.c: fix bootup lockup (was: Re: Linux 2.6.25-rc4) Ingo Molnar
2008-03-09 13:41   ` [patch] drivers/char/esp.c: fix bootup lockup Jiri Slaby
2008-03-09 22:49     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-09 23:04       ` Jiri Slaby
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-03-05 22:30 Linux 2.6.25-rc4 Jonathan McDowell

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