From: Jun Kamada <kama@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: James.Smart@Emulex.Com
Cc: kama@jp.fujitsu.com, Steven Smith <steven.smith@eu.citrix.com>,
James Harper <james.harper@bendigoit.com.au>,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: [Patch 0/7] pvSCSI driver
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:59:06 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080317114153.DA5D.EB2C8575@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47DACF1C.9010007@emulex.com>
Hi James-san,
Thank you for your comments.
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:16:44 -0400
James Smart <James.Smart@Emulex.Com> wrote:
> Jun Kamada wrote:
> > -----
> > 1.) Allow specifying arbitrary mapping between Dom0's SCSI tree and
> > Guest's SCSI tree. This includes "lun".
> > ( Dom0's IDs [host1:channel1:id1:lun1] --->
> > Guest's IDs [host2:channel2:id2:lun2] )
>
> It would really be nice, when considering a model of FC NPIV, or IOV-based
> ports, where you allow a model where the mapping can be stronger and done
> in a single step. E.g. map everything from a particular scsi_host into the DomU.
>
> Note: I'm not lobbying for a change in emulation, but rather trying to automate
> the arbitrary and individual mappings when there is a higher level (relative to
> the scsi tree) association to the DomU.
I have a same thoughts that the interface such like wild-card (for
example 1:0:*:*) is needed.
> Note: given that channel # is specific to the host#,
> and id # is specific to the channel #,
> and lun # is specific to the id #
> there's no real reason why they couldn't be the same, or at least
> overlap, with the Dom0 values. It's all up to whomever is doing
> the transformation or emulation.
>
> > 2.) Guest has responsibility to have mapping and transform between
> > Dom0's IDs and Guest's IDs. It depends on guest OS's implementation
> > which level(e.g. only "host" or all of 4-tuples or no-transform) of
> > mapping/transformation will be supported.
> > If guest decides to support lun transformation and in case of
> > "lun1 != lun2", the guest's frontend driver should maintain LUN
> > value in CDB data structure.
>
> Wow. This seems odd. In my mind, this really is based on the abstraction
> you choose between the DomU and Dom0. You're either exporting SCSI Disks,
> SCSI targets, or SCSI Hosts. Each of these dictates differences in the way
> the emulation is done.
>
> I would have thought the translation always occurs on the Dom0 side.
I would like to take backend side emulation approach as mentioned on
another mail. Thank you for your advise.
> > 3.) As for REPORT LUNS command, Dom0 performs munging.
>
> This is in line with my last statement - it's on the Dom0 side.
>
> > 4.) Dom0 accepts only LOGICAL UNIT RESET command.
>
> Note: At least for Linux stacks, and I know it's true for older Windows
> releases as well, the scsi stacks don't generate LOGICAL UNIT RESETS.
> They are either Target Resets or Bus Resets.
This is very difficult issue and there is no good solution. :-<
> > 5.) Of course, the backend driver performs sanity check of IDs that the
> > guest already transformed.
>
> And if you're checking it - why are you (the Dom0) managing the transformation ?
> Sounds like the work got done twice in your proposal.
>
> -- james
>
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Best regards,
-----
Jun Kamada
prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-17 2:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-18 10:10 [Patch 0/7] pvSCSI driver Jun Kamada
2008-02-18 12:14 ` James Harper
2008-02-19 2:26 ` Jun Kamada
2008-02-19 2:28 ` James Harper
2008-02-20 3:58 ` James Harper
2008-02-20 5:09 ` Jun Kamada
2008-02-21 2:19 ` James Harper
2008-02-21 3:39 ` James Harper
2008-02-21 4:23 ` Jun Kamada
2008-02-21 5:30 ` James Harper
2008-02-25 1:53 ` Jun Kamada
2008-02-27 11:16 ` Steven Smith
2008-02-28 2:51 ` Jun Kamada
2008-02-28 11:13 ` Steven Smith
2008-02-29 4:47 ` Jun Kamada
2008-03-03 11:38 ` Steven Smith
2008-03-04 7:57 ` Jun Kamada
2008-03-04 13:05 ` Steven Smith
2008-03-05 2:34 ` James Harper
2008-03-05 9:53 ` Jun Kamada
2008-03-05 9:56 ` James Harper
2008-03-05 10:00 ` Jun Kamada
2008-03-06 23:48 ` Dan Magenheimer
2008-03-07 1:20 ` Jun Kamada
2008-03-07 2:55 ` Jun Kamada
2008-03-07 4:31 ` James Harper
2008-03-14 19:04 ` James Smart
2008-03-10 12:00 ` Steven Smith
2008-03-12 6:23 ` Jun Kamada
2008-03-13 14:30 ` Steven Smith
2008-03-17 2:33 ` Jun Kamada
2008-03-17 17:29 ` Steven Smith
2008-03-14 19:16 ` James Smart
2008-03-17 2:59 ` Jun Kamada [this message]
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