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From: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
To: Zach Brown <zab@zabbo.net>
Cc: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: bdar: efficiently backup allocated bytes in file systems
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:52:01 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080318235201.GE155407@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47E03CE3.3080903@zabbo.net>

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 03:06:27PM -0700, Zach Brown wrote:
> 
> > Neat, Zach. You should look at xfs_copy - it does pretty much this for XFS
> > filesystems....
> 
> haha, yet another round of the -fsdevel XFS drinking game :)

/me grins

> Does xfs_copy tend to assert the XFS file format in the backup files it
> generates?

Yes. If the destination is a file, the resultant image is a sparse
file that is a mountable XFS filesystem.

> One of the things I was hoping for with bdar was to have the
> resulting copy image be agnostic.  It's just a sparse map with some
> checksumming, really.

Yup - the use of a sparse file avoids the need for an internal map.
But that does't really work for piping the output, though.
xfs_metadump is probably more similar to bdar in that respect, but it
doesn't copy data....

FWIW, xfs_copy is really for efficient duplication of one source
disk to many destination disks in manufacturing, not so much as
a filesystem backup tool...

> That limits what we can do, of course.  The current trivial format only
> has one address space which doesn't fit well with the plans file systems
> have of working with multiple addressable block ranges.

Can't do everything ;)

> But I think I'm fine with that.  The value:complexity ratio of this
> trivial version is refreshingly large.

Agreed. 

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-19 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-18  1:13 bdar: efficiently backup allocated bytes in file systems Zach Brown
2008-03-18  7:47 ` Sitsofe Wheeler
2008-03-20 16:25   ` Zach Brown
2008-03-18 21:35 ` David Chinner
2008-03-18 22:06   ` Zach Brown
2008-03-18 23:52     ` David Chinner [this message]
2008-03-20  0:26       ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-03-20  1:13       ` Andreas Dilger
2008-03-20  0:32     ` Ric Wheeler
2008-03-19  2:58 ` Andreas Dilger
2008-03-19  3:10   ` Zach Brown

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