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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jon Masters <jcm@jonmasters.org>, Jon Masters <jcm@redhat.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 4/4] Markers Support for Proprierary Modules
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:24:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080320222453.GB15511@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080320220540.GA29012@elte.hu>

* Ingo Molnar (mingo@elte.hu) wrote:
> 
> * Frank Ch. Eigler <fche@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> writes:
> > 
[...]
> > > [if the proprietary modules attach to kernel markers ...] then all 
> > > the pressure is on those who _can_ fix their code - meaning the 
> > > kernel subsystem maintainers that use [you mean: define] markers.
> > 
> > (In a way, it would be a nice problem to have.  At this moment, there 
> > are still no markers actually committed within -mm nor -linus.)
> 
> ... which makes it doubly problematic to expose them to binary-only 
> modules in any way, shape or form. Really, once _any_ kernel facility is 
> used by such a module, it's pain for us to change it from that point on. 
> Once markers are a 10 year concept that nobody in their right mind would 
> want to change, sure, we dont _care_ about whether it's export or not, 
> and basic courtesy might say that it's OK to do it. But to proactively 
> export any aspect of a half-done piece of infrastructure is crazy.
> 
> 	Ingo

I agree with you on this : maybe it would be better to wait a bit and
let the core markers in first and learn from that before we open this up
to proprierary modules.

Mathieu

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Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-20 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20  0:27 [patch 0/4] Markers updates for 2.6.25-rc6 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-03-20  0:27 ` [patch 1/4] Markers - depends on not PREEMPT_RCU Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-03-20 19:03   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-20 19:49     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-03-20  0:27 ` [patch 2/4] Markers - Update preempt_disable. call_rcu, rcu_barrier comments Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-03-20  0:27 ` [patch 3/4] Markers - Remove ACCESS_ONCE Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-03-20  0:27 ` [patch 4/4] Markers Support for Proprierary Modules Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-03-20  5:35   ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 12:30     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-03-20  8:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-03-20 19:12   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-20 19:18     ` Jon Masters
2008-03-20 22:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-20 20:17     ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2008-03-20 22:05       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-20 22:24         ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2008-03-20 22:22     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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