From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756632AbYDMUfz (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:35:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753026AbYDMUfq (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:35:46 -0400 Received: from 74-93-104-97-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([74.93.104.97]:48520 "EHLO sunset.davemloft.net" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752637AbYDMUfp (ORCPT ); Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:35:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20080413.133546.43018013.davem@davemloft.net> To: johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, w@1wt.eu, rjw@sisk.pl, tilman@imap.cc, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, lkml@rtr.ca, jesper.juhl@gmail.com, yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org, jeff@garzik.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Reporting bugs and bisection From: David Miller In-Reply-To: <20080413202118.GA29658@2ka.mipt.ru> References: <20080413184730.GD8474@1wt.eu> <20080413121831.d89dd424.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080413202118.GA29658@2ka.mipt.ru> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Evgeniy Polyakov Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:21:18 +0400 > If the same would be done on developers machine and huge patches would > be sent to jump between changesets, that would be a real 'work closely > with the reporter working out why the reporter's failure was occurring'? In fact, this is what Andrew's so-called "back and forth with the bug reporter" used to mainly consist of. Asking the user to try this patch or that patch, which most of the time were reverts of suspect changes. Which, surprise surprise, means we were spending lots of time bisecting things by hand. We're able to automate this now and it's not a bad thing.