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From: David Fries <david@fries.net>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 34/35] W1: Documentation/w1/masters/ds2490 update
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:09:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080413230947.GA14049@spacedout.fries.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080330114335.GM15122@2ka.mipt.ru>

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On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 03:43:35PM +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 07:27:59AM -0500, David Fries (david@fries.net) wrote:
> > +Notes and limitations.
> > +- The 5V strong pullup is supported.
> > +- While the ds2490 supports a hardware search the code doesn't take
> > +  advantage of it.
> 
> It does not actually - at least my hardware can only find first device
> on the bus, so I dropped the implementation.

ds_search, ds_match_access, and ds_set_path need a comment to that
effect then.

> I generally ack whe whole ds2490 changes except pullup one - it has
> to be turned off by default, presumably tested with multiple devices on
> the same wire.

The second set of patches include a module parameter for both the
w1_therm where a 5V strong pullup is requested and the one wire core
w1_io.c where the request makes calls into the master driver.  This
way there is also a sysfs file to enable and disable the 5V strong
pullup per master.

I have tested the 5V strong pullup with five devices on the bus.  It
works fine.  Two ds18b20 temperature sensors and two thermochron
iButton sensors.  I have maybe 20 feet of wire with a fork near the
ds2490.

It is the 12V programming pulse that is limited to one device and a
shorter wire.  This is the 5V strong pullup, and it doesn't have any
cautions.  The data wire is already working at 5V, it is just the
amount of current that can be supplied increases.

While I agree it is good to have an option to disable it, as it is
optional, what is your reasoning to opposed it?  The ds2490
specification describes in the active pullup section that when the bus
is low and the desired state is high it will start first by the weak
pullup, then when the voltage reaches 0.25V it will switch on the
strong pullup, and VD-1.75V to VDD -0.3V it will set a timer to
disable the strong pullup.  So it is already being used on the bus.

> David, thanks a lot for your work on w1 drivers.
> 
> -- 
> 	Evgeniy Polyakov

-- 
David Fries <david@fries.net>
http://fries.net/~david/ (PGP encryption key available)

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-13 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200803272343.m2RNhDac017650@SpacedOut.fries.net>
2008-03-28 12:23 ` [PATCH 1/35] W1: fix deadlocks and remove w1_control_thread David Fries
2008-03-28 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/35] W1: abort search early on on exit David Fries
2008-03-28 12:24 ` [PATCH 3/35] W1: don't delay search start David Fries
2008-03-28 12:24 ` [PATCH 4/35] W1: w1_process, allow wakeup in sleep David Fries
2008-03-28 12:24 ` [PATCH 5/35] W1: w1_process, remove W1_MASTER_NEED_EXIT, it is redundant David Fries
2008-03-28 12:24 ` [PATCH 6/35] W1: w1_process, block when there's nothing to do David Fries
2008-03-30 11:28   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-03-28 12:25 ` [PATCH 7/35] W1: feature, enable hardware strong pullup David Fries
2008-03-30 11:31   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-03-28 12:25 ` [PATCH 8/35] W1: feature, w1_therm.c use " David Fries
2008-03-30 11:30   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-03-28 12:25 ` [PATCH 9/35] W1: create documentation for the w1_therm slave device David Fries
2008-03-30 11:32   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-03-28 12:25 ` [PATCH 10/35] W1: be able to manually add and remove slaves David Fries
2008-03-30 11:33   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-03-28 12:25 ` [PATCH 11/35] W1: recode w1_slave_found logic David Fries
2008-03-28 12:25 ` [PATCH 12/35] W1: new module parameter search_count David Fries
2008-03-28 12:25 ` [PATCH 13/35] W1: Document add, remove, and search_count David Fries
2008-03-30 11:33   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-03-28 12:25 ` [PATCH 14/35] W1: w1_slave_read_id multiple short read bug David Fries
2008-03-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 15/35] W1: w1_slave_read_id from bin_attribute to device_attribute David Fries
2008-03-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 16/35] W1: w1_therm fix user buffer overflow and cat David Fries
2008-03-30 11:34   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-03-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 17/35] W1: w1_family, remove unused variable need_exit David Fries
2008-03-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 18/35] W1: w1_therm consistent mutex access code cleanup David Fries
2008-03-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 19/35] W1: w1_int.c use first available master number David Fries
2008-03-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 20/35] W1: w1.c s/printk/dev_dbg/ David Fries
2008-03-30 11:35   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-03-28 12:26 ` [PATCH 21/35] W1: w1_io.c reset comments and msleep David Fries
2008-03-30 11:36   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 22/35] W1: ds1wm.c msleep for reset David Fries
2008-03-30 11:38   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-03-30 13:43     ` David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 23/35] W1: ds2490.c correct print message David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 24/35] W1: ds2490.c add support for strong pullup David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 25/35] W1: ds2490.c fix grouping error in ds_write_bit David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 26/35] W1: ds2490.c ds_write_bit disable readback David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 27/35] W1: ds2490.c disable bit read and write David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 28/35] W1: ds2490.c simplify and fix ds_touch_bit David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 29/35] W1: ds2490.c ds_dump_status rework David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 30/35] W1: ds2490.c ds_reset remove ds_wait_status David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 31/35] W1: ds2490.c reset ds2490 in init David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 32/35] W1: ds2490.c magic number work David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 33/35] W1: ds2490.c ds_write_block remove extra ds_wait_status David Fries
2008-03-28 12:27 ` [PATCH 34/35] W1: Documentation/w1/masters/ds2490 update David Fries
2008-03-30 11:43   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-04-13 23:09     ` David Fries [this message]
2008-03-28 12:28 ` [PATCH 35/35] W1: ds2490.c optimize ds_set_pullup David Fries

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