From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756137AbYDSRt3 (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:49:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755247AbYDSRtV (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:49:21 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:41603 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753736AbYDSRtV (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:49:21 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:49:11 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Ingo Molnar Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de Subject: Re: x86: 4kstacks default Message-Id: <20080419104911.07d299ef.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20080419142329.GA5339@elte.hu> References: <200804181737.m3IHbabI010051@hera.kernel.org> <20080418142934.38ce6bf4.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080419142329.GA5339@elte.hu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.4 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:23:29 +0200 Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Andrew Morton wrote: > > > > config 4KSTACKS > > > bool "Use 4Kb for kernel stacks instead of 8Kb" > > > - depends on DEBUG_KERNEL > > > depends on X86_32 > > > + default y > > > > This patch will cause kernels to crash. > > what mainline kernels crash and how will they crash? There has been a dribble of reports - I don't have the links handy, nor did I search for them. > Fedora and other > distros have had 4K stacks enabled for years: > > $ grep 4K /boot/config-2.6.24-9.fc9 > CONFIG_4KSTACKS=y > > and we've conducted tens of thousands of bootup tests with all sorts of > drivers and kernel options enabled and have yet to see a single crash > due to 4K stacks. I doubt if you're testing things like nfsd-on-xfs-on-md-on-porky-scsi-driver. Enable CONFIG_DEBUG_STACK_USAGE. Monitor the results. It's so scary that I wonder if the feature is busted. > So basically the kernel default just follows the > common distro default now. (distros and users can still disable it) Apparently not. I wouldn't enable it if I had a distro. Anyway. We should be having this sort of discussion _before_ a patch gets merged, no?