From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
wli@holomorphy.com, agl@us.ibm.com, luick@cray.com,
Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/5] Documentation: add node files to sysfs ABI
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:41:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080421164146.GA32429@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0804202305470.13872@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On 20.04.2008 [23:06:48 -0700], Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008, Greg KH wrote:
>
> > > That violation is replicated in /proc/meminfo /proc/vmstat etc etc.
> >
> > Those are /proc files, not sysfs files :)
>
> Hmmm.. Maybe we need to have /proc/node<x>/meminfo etc that replicates
> the /proc content for each node? Otherwise this cannot be symmetric
> because the different mount points have different requirements on how
> the output should look like.
But the memory info has nothing to do with process specific information,
which is what "new" /proc files should contain (or maybe I'm
mis-remembering).
The current location (/sys/devices/system/node) reflects that memory is
tied to system devices called "nodes"; I'm not entirely convinced we'd
want to change that? Especially, as Greg noted, it's easier to obtain
the information we want off a sysdev, rather than the raw kobject.
While I understand the desire to maintain sanity for sysfs files,
perhaps the meminfo files (and numastat, etc) are just special, in that
they only make sense as a collective (the snapshot mentioned earlier in
this thread) -- to get a view of the component (memory, NUMA statistics,
etc) as a whole.
In that sense, perhaps the sysfs notion should be extended to "One
logical value per file", where logical is defined as the minimum atomic
information needed by the user [1]? Or perhaps sysfs just isn't the best
place for this information, I don't know. I don't believe I am the
person to make that call.
Thanks,
Nish
[1] That would allow files like available_clocksource not to seem like
violators of the sysfs rule:
$ sudo cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/available_clocksource
hpet acpi_pm pit jiffies tsc
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-21 16:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-11 23:44 [PATCH 1/5] hugetlb: numafy several functions Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-11 23:47 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] " Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-11 23:47 ` [PATCH 3/5] hugetlb: interleave dequeueing of huge pages Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-11 23:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] Documentation: add node files to sysfs ABI Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-11 23:50 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] Documentation: update ABI and hugetlbpage.txt for per-node files Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-11 23:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] Documentation: add node files to sysfs ABI Greg KH
2008-04-12 0:27 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-12 9:41 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-12 10:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-14 21:09 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-13 3:41 ` Greg KH
2008-04-14 21:05 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-17 23:16 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-17 23:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-17 23:36 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-17 23:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-18 6:04 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-18 17:27 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-20 2:24 ` Greg KH
2008-04-21 16:43 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-20 2:21 ` Greg KH
2008-04-21 6:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-21 16:41 ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2008-04-22 5:14 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-22 16:56 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-23 1:03 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23 18:32 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-23 19:07 ` Adam Litke
2008-04-24 7:13 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-24 15:54 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-27 3:49 ` [RFC][PATCH] hugetlb: add information and interface in sysfs [Was Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/5] Documentation: add node files to sysfs ABI] Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-27 5:10 ` Greg KH
2008-04-28 17:22 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-28 17:29 ` Greg KH
2008-04-29 17:11 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-29 17:22 ` Greg KH
2008-04-29 18:14 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-29 18:26 ` Greg KH
2008-04-29 23:48 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-01 3:07 ` Greg KH
2008-05-01 18:25 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-30 19:19 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-05-01 3:08 ` Greg KH
2008-05-02 17:58 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-28 20:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-28 20:52 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-28 21:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-29 16:43 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-04-29 17:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-04-14 14:52 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] hugetlb: numafy several functions Adam Litke
2008-04-14 21:10 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
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