From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763254AbYDXPdl (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:33:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1762962AbYDXPdb (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:33:31 -0400 Received: from outbound-mail-13.bluehost.com ([69.89.18.113]:52070 "HELO outbound-mail-13.bluehost.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1763052AbYDXPd3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:33:29 -0400 From: Jesse Barnes To: Shaohua Li Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI Express ASPM support should default to 'No' Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:33:19 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 Cc: Andi Kleen , Jesper Juhl , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar References: <87abjjzo84.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> <1209024126.7479.0.camel@sli10-desk.sh.intel.com> In-Reply-To: <1209024126.7479.0.camel@sli10-desk.sh.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200804240833.19614.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> X-Identified-User: {642:box128.bluehost.com:virtuous:virtuousgeek.org} {sentby:smtp auth 12.108.5.2 authed with jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org} Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:02 am Shaohua Li wrote: > On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 09:49 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > Shaohua Li writes: > > > Ok, I'm fine with the patch. Though by default, the policy is to use > > > BIOS setting, that is if BIOS disables ASPM, we don't enable it too. > > > > Once the feature is considered stable it would be nice to make it > > default y > > again. I think any power saving should be on by default (unless > > serious > > issues are known), not off. > > yes, we could do it in next release. When we move to 'default y' we should also update the Kconfig text, removing the experimental tag and changing the advice. And yeah, I'd like to save power by default too, but do you think this has seen enough test coverage to enable it by default? Do we know of any platforms where ASPM causes problems because the BIOS enabled it and we tried to use it? Thanks, Jesse