From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1764206AbYEARUK (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 13:20:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759410AbYEART5 (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 13:19:57 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:41743 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758761AbYEART4 (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 May 2008 13:19:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:18:26 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Steven Rostedt Cc: bunk@kernel.org, arjan@infradead.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, rjw@sisk.pl, davem@davemloft.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jirislaby@gmail.com Subject: Re: RFC: starting a kernel-testers group for newbies Message-Id: <20080501101826.6609dc85.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20080429.190352.137408408.davem@davemloft.net> <200804302136.58005.rjw@sisk.pl> <20080430131537.1f7a0914.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080501003125.GM29330@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080430000338.50548884@infradead.org> <20080501113038.GW29330@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080430072013.7c3b30b1@infradead.org> <20080501132159.GC29330@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <20080501084919.8ac6dbdd.akpm@linux-foundation.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.4 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 1 May 2008 12:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Steven Rostedt wrote: > People here mention differnt places to look at code, and besides the > kerneloops.org I really don't even know where to look for bugs, because I > haven't seen a URL to point me to. bugzilla.kernel.org is, umm, improving. It would be an intersting exercise for someone to spend a few days seeing how many of the bugzilla reports they personally can reproduce. I'd guess "zero". There's a lesson in that. The problem with bugzilla will be that it will be hard to find reports where the reporter will be able to work with you on the fix - we've let them go cold. The most fruitful place to find fixable bugs is linux-kernel. People who report bugs there are sufficiently motivated to have actually sent the email and the bug is still recent, so they probably haven't done the Solaris install yet.