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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: sync_file_range(SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE) blocks?
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:39:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080531173950.c4f04028.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0805311925190.27293@blonde.site>

On Sat, 31 May 2008 19:44:49 +0100 (BST) Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 30 May 2008, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > sync_file_range(SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE) blocks ... which makes problem
> > > > for s2disk: there we want to start writeout as early as possible
> > > > (system is going to shut down after write, and we need the data on
> > > > disk).
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortuantely, sync_file_range(SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE) blocks, which
> > > > does not work for us. Is there non-blocking variant? "Start writeout
> > > > on this fd, but don't block me"?
> > > 
> > > I guess there are lots of reasons why it may block (get rescheduled)
> > > briefly, but why would that matter to you?  Are you saying that its
> > > whole design has got broken somehow, and now SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE
> > > is behaving as if SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_AFTER had been supplied too?
> > 
> > It appears to me like it includes WAIT_AFTER, yes.
> > 
> > I was not sure what the expected behaviour was... lets say we have a
> > lot of dirty data (like 40MB) and system with enough free memory. Is
> > it reasonable to expect SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE to return pretty much
> > immediately? (like in less than 10msec)? Because it seems to take more
> > like a second here...
> > 
> > (Underlying 'file' is actually /dev/sda1 -- aka my swap partition, but
> > that should not matter --right?)
> 
> Right (so long as you're not swapping to it at the same time!).
> And it seems to be behaving the same way on a regular file.
> 
> All I can say so far is that I find the same as you do:
> SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE (after writing) takes a significant amount of time,
> more than half as long as when you add in SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WAIT_AFTER too.
> 
> Which make the sync_file_range call pretty pointless: your usage seems
> perfectly reasonable to me, but somehow we've broken its behaviour.
> I'll be investigating ...
> 

It will block on disk queue fullness - sysrq-W will tell.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-01  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-30 10:26 sync_file_range(SYNC_FILE_RANGE_WRITE) blocks? Pavel Machek
2008-05-30 13:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-05-30 20:43   ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-31 18:44     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-01  0:39       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2008-06-01  7:23         ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-01  8:15           ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-01 11:40             ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-01 20:37               ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-01 22:00                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-01 22:22                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-01 22:47                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-01 23:00                     ` Pavel Machek
2008-06-01 23:11                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-02  8:43                         ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-02 11:18                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-02 12:11                             ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-02 11:43                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-02 12:40                   ` Hugh Dickins
2008-06-16 20:53                     ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-17  4:54                       ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-17 13:38                         ` Rik van Riel
2008-06-02 16:50                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-03  8:01               ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-06-03  8:05                 ` Pavel Machek

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