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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: big flash disks?
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:56:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080603185659.GB6899@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080603181226.GF1224@logfs.org>

Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Mon, 2 June 2008 13:48:22 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > 
> > The basic idea is for a pointer in a tree node to point not to one
> > child, but to a small set of potential children.  The child-set are a
> > journal in the jffs2 sense.  When reading, you read each block of the
> > child-set, and pick the most recent.  This slows down reading, but
> > reduces the amount of writing.  You still read in O(log tree_size)
> > blocks, and since most of the extra reads are hot-cache internal tree
> > blocks, the amount of extra reading is quite small.  Child-sets can
> > overlap to reduce storage duplication, at cost of more operations -
> > it's a heuristic balancing act.  Child-sets are not used for all tree
> > nodes, especially data.  They can be invoked and destroyed dynamically
> > using heuristics to detect some parts of the tree undergoing lots of
> > write+sync sequences and others being coalescable writes or not
> > written.
> 
> This is actually a good explanation of the logfs journal. :)

Oh.  Great, cheers.  Great minds think alike :-)

If that's the logfs journal - why would extra static tree depth near
the root add any write-commit overhead as you said in the grandparent
post? :-)

(Btw, I thought a difference between logfs and ubifs is the latter
does async writes?  Or do they both?)

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-03 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-01 18:42 big flash disks? Jamie Lokier
2008-06-01 20:41 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-02  5:59 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2008-06-02  8:23   ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 10:43     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-02 11:55       ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 12:32         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 18:09           ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-03 18:44             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-04  6:25               ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02  7:28 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 10:41   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-02 11:43     ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-02 12:48       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 18:12         ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-03 18:56           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-06-04  6:18             ` Jörn Engel

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