From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:41:00 +0200 From: Klaus Singvogel Message-ID: <20080604154059.GA30247@suse.de> References: <20080602154427.GA771@suse.de> <200806022202.41614.Thomas.Zander@trolltech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200806022202.41614.Thomas.Zander@trolltech.com> Subject: Re: [Printing-architecture] The Common Printing Dialog and PDF as standard print job format for Qt/KDE applications List-Id: Printing architecture under linux List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Thomas Zander Cc: kurt pfeifle , Henrik Nilsen Omma , Jonathan Riddell , printing-architecture@lists.linux-foundation.org, Till Kamppeter , Celeste Lyn Paul , Cristian Tibirna Hi, sorry for delay, but our next product is upcoming, and sometimes time is getting short at the moment at my side. :-) I noticed that you couldn't fully dispel all my arguments, and therefore I think you caugth the issues. Still I've some comments to your last e-mail... Thomas Zander wrote: > > The usage of references means that it you are right that it is possible to > have the first page reference an object at the end of the document, but thats > just not how pdf exporters are written. But the PDF-1.7 reference from Adobe is written so: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/pdf_reference.pdf It could be viewed only (and only with acroread) after the file was completely downloaded. [...] > > But most OpenSource programs (like xpdf and clones) support only up to > > PDF-1.4. > > > > Therefore I'm asking, will be a PDF limitation made for Linux printing? > > On screen PDF viewers are not really relevant here, the support of the > standard in the printer is. Sorry, but how is the printout on non-brandnew or non-PDF-able printers done? Isn't there a conversion to older PDF versions or to a printer specific rasterization necessary? Which tool do you think is used for doing so, if not xpdf? > But more to the point, newer versions tend to only add multi-media versions > (like 3D stuff) which obviously is not really relevant. What about the JPEG2000 support (PDF-1.5)? I doubt that it is multi-media related, and having doubts regarding "non relevant feature" classification either. What about the layering? I got bugzilla entries where the layering in some newer PDF versions produced wrong printouts (different then in viewer). I.e. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=377878 A technique, which was introduced with PDF-1.6, I think. > On another note; KDE and poppler are working hard on getting that support up; > which is the obvious correct solution, again IMO. I agree. But I heard about this rumor quiet some time now, and got doubts that it will ever be done. Regards, Klaus. -- Klaus Singvogel - Maxfeldstr. 5 - 90409 Nuernberg - Germany Phone: +49-911-74053-0 GnuPG-Key-ID: 1024R/5068792D 1994-06-27 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg)