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From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	npiggin@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kniht@us.ibm.com, abh@cray.com, joachim.deguara@amd.com
Subject: Re: [patch 14/21] x86: add hugepagesz option on 64-bit
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:15:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080605231519.GD31534@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4845DC72.5080206@firstfloor.org>

On 04.06.2008 [02:06:10 +0200], Andi Kleen wrote:
> 
> > Also, as I said, users doesn't really know what the OS or hardware will
> > support 
> 
> The normal Linux expectation is that these kinds of users will not
> use huge pages at all.  Or rather if everybody was supposed to use
> them then all the interfaces would need to be greatly improved and any
> kinds of boot parameters would be out and they would need to be
> 100% integrated with the standard VM.
> 
> Hugepages are strictly an harder-to-use optimization for specific people
> who love to tweak (e.g. database administrators or benchmarkers). From
> what I heard so far these people like to have more control, not less.

I really don't want to get involved in this discussion, but let me just
say: "Hugepages are *right now* strictly a harder-to-use optimization".
libhugetlbfs helps quite a bit (in my opinion) as far as making
hugepages easier to use. And Adam's dynamic pool work does as well. It's
progress, slow and steady as it may be. I don't really appreciate the
entire hugepage area being pigeon-holed into what you've experienced.

Thanks,
Nish

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-05 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-03  9:59 [patch 00/21] hugetlb multi size, giant hugetlb support, etc npiggin
2008-06-03  9:59 ` [patch 01/21] hugetlb: factor out prep_new_huge_page npiggin
2008-06-03  9:59 ` [patch 02/21] hugetlb: modular state npiggin
2008-06-03 10:58   ` [patch 02/21] hugetlb: modular state (take 2) Nick Piggin
2008-06-03  9:59 ` [patch 03/21] hugetlb: multiple hstates npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 04/21] hugetlbfs: per mount hstates npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 05/21] hugetlb: new sysfs interface npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 06/21] hugetlb: abstract numa round robin selection npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 07/21] mm: introduce non panic alloc_bootmem npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 08/21] mm: export prep_compound_page to mm npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 09/21] hugetlb: support larger than MAX_ORDER npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 10/21] hugetlb: support boot allocate different sizes npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 11/21] hugetlb: printk cleanup npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 12/21] hugetlb: introduce pud_huge npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 13/21] x86: support GB hugepages on 64-bit npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 14/21] x86: add hugepagesz option " npiggin
2008-06-03 17:48   ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-03 18:24     ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-03 18:59       ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-03 20:57         ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-03 21:27           ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-04  0:06             ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04  1:04               ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04 16:01                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-06 16:09                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-05 23:15               ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2008-06-06  0:29                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04  1:10           ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-05 23:12             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-06-05 23:23               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2008-06-03 19:00       ` Dave Hansen
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 15/21] hugetlb: override default huge page size npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 16/21] hugetlb: allow arch overried hugepage allocation npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 17/21] powerpc: function to allocate gigantic hugepages npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 18/21] powerpc: scan device tree for gigantic pages npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 19/21] powerpc: define support for 16G hugepages npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 20/21] fs: check for statfs overflow npiggin
2008-06-03 10:00 ` [patch 21/21] powerpc: support multiple hugepage sizes npiggin
2008-06-03 10:29 ` [patch 1/1] x86: get_user_pages_lockless support 1GB hugepages Nick Piggin
2008-06-03 10:57 ` [patch 00/21] hugetlb multi size, giant hugetlb support, etc Nick Piggin
2008-06-06 17:12   ` Andy Whitcroft
2008-06-04  8:29 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-04  9:35   ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04  9:46     ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-04 11:04       ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04 11:33       ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-04 11:57   ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-04 18:39     ` Andrew Morton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-04 11:29 [patch 00/21] hugetlb patches resend npiggin
2008-06-04 11:29 ` [patch 14/21] x86: add hugepagesz option on 64-bit npiggin
2008-06-04 17:51   ` Randy Dunlap
2008-06-05  2:01     ` Nick Piggin

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