From: Alessandro Zummo <alessandro.zummo@towertech.it>
To: rtc-linux@googlegroups.com
Cc: david-b@pacbell.net, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Lior Dotan <liodot@gmail.com>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [rtc-linux] Re: [Bug 10866] /dev/rtc was missing until I disabled CONFIG_RTC_CLASS
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:35:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080614113535.4d611e07@i1501.lan.towertech.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200806131538.54254.david-b@pacbell.net>
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:38:54 -0700
David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> They can continue working just fine with *only* the legacy RTC.
> If they stuck with defaults, no problems appear. (Modulo the
> fact that bitrot is setting in.)
>
> The only thing that causes the least hiccup is someone who was
> for a while using a bogus (and non-default) configuration.
>
> Given a bogus configuration, how should it be fixed? There
> can be several solutions, and the right answer for one system
> will always be the right one for another. So any approach
> that doesn't expect a human to select options sometimes will
> be inherently wrong in various cases.
I agree with david. oldconfig cannot be made to fix every possible
manual misconfiguration that has been introduced by the user, even
those that, by chance, just worked.
The actual Kconfig will handle pretty well the transition from
a good config. where good is different from working-by-chance.
There are far too many people that just keep pressing Y
when a new kernel option appears without even considering what would
happen or reading the help.
--
Best regards,
Alessandro Zummo,
Tower Technologies - Torino, Italy
http://www.towertech.it
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Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-07 20:38 2.6.26-rc5-git2: Reported regressions from 2.6.25 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:38 ` [Bug #10493] mips BCM47XX compile error Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-11 16:17 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10606] 2.6.26-rc1 regression: ACPI fails to load SDT. - Dell M1530 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10714] Badness seen on 2.6.26-rc2 with lockdep enabled Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10669] ACPI: kmemcheck: Caught 16-bit read from freed memory (f7c12ec6) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 21:58 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10760] PCIEHP breakage in 2.6.26-rc1,2.6.26-rc2,2.6.26-rc3 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-09 8:19 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10765] iwl3945/mac80211: association times out since 2.6.26-rc1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10761] hackbench regression with 2.6.26-rc2 on tulsa machine Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-08 3:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2008-06-08 16:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10629] 2.6.26-rc1-$sha1: RIP __d_lookup+0x8c/0x160 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10725] Write protect on on Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10741] bug in `tty: BKL pushdown'? Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10616] Horrendous Audio Stutter - current git Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200806080035.00796.elendil@planet.nl>
2008-06-08 16:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10686] critical thermal shutdown regression 2.6.26-rc1 - HP Pavilion dv6700 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10670] BUG: linux-2.6.26-rc1 oops at thinkpad_acpi:led_set_status Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10726] x86-64 NODES_SHIFT compile failure Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10642] general protection fault: 0000 [1] PREEMPT SMP DEBUG_PAGEALLOC Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10764] some serial configurations are now broken Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10730] build issue #503 for v2.6.26-rc2-433-gf26a398 : undefined reference to `request_firmware' Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10724] ACPI: EC: GPE storm detected, disabling EC GPE Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10711] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request - scsi_bus_uevent Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10748] dhclient fails to run; capabilities error Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10872] x86_64 boot hang when CONFIG_NUMA=n Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-11 20:30 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10821] rt25xx: lock dependancy warning, association failure, and kmalloc corruption Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-13 14:00 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-13 18:09 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10823] stuck localhost TCP connections, v2.6.26-rc3+ Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-09 10:07 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10828] [2.6.25-git18 => 2.6.26-rc1-git1] Xorg crash with xf86MapVidMem error Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10827] 2.6.26rc4 GFS2 oops Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10873] serial/bfin_5xx.c build error Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10865] i get the following oops trying to mount an ntfs partition on thinkpad Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10864] [regression][bisected] ~90,000 wakeups as of 2.6.26-rc3 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10874] blackfin drivers/net/smc91x.c build error Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10863] kvm causing memory corruption? now 2.6.26-rc4 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10787] pcie hotplug bootup crash fix Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-09 8:22 ` Kenji Kaneshige
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10826] NFS oops in 2.6.26rc4 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10862] forcedeth: lockdep warning on ethtool -s Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10825] appletouch after wakeup Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 22:54 ` Justin Mattock
2008-06-08 16:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-08 18:26 ` Justin Mattock
2008-06-09 9:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-09 16:18 ` Justin Mattock
2008-06-09 19:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-09 20:29 ` Justin Mattock
2008-06-09 20:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-09 20:52 ` Justin Mattock
2008-06-09 21:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-09 22:04 ` Justin Mattock
2008-06-09 22:36 ` Justin Mattock
2008-06-09 22:40 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-10 0:03 ` Justin Mattock
2008-06-10 0:06 ` Jiri Kosina
2008-06-10 1:11 ` Justin Mattock
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10819] Fatal DMA error with b43 driver since 2.6.26 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10816] vt/fbcon: fix background color on line feed Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 22:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-06-08 16:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10815] 2.6.26-rc4: RIP find_pid_ns+0x6b/0xa0 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-13 13:52 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-14 14:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-14 14:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-06-14 18:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-14 19:43 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-06-15 3:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-15 16:21 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-06-15 18:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-15 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-15 23:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-15 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-16 3:01 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-06-16 3:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-16 3:46 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-06-17 3:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-24 0:50 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-06-24 1:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 1:51 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-24 12:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-24 21:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-24 21:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-25 9:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-16 13:53 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-15 23:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10866] /dev/rtc was missing until I disabled CONFIG_RTC_CLASS Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-13 19:33 ` [Bug 10866] " Adrian Bunk
2008-06-13 19:55 ` Lior Dotan
2008-06-13 20:43 ` David Brownell
2008-06-13 21:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-13 22:38 ` David Brownell
2008-06-14 9:35 ` Alessandro Zummo [this message]
2008-06-14 11:18 ` [rtc-linux] " Adrian Bunk
2008-06-14 11:33 ` Alessandro Zummo
2008-06-14 10:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-13 21:20 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-14 11:56 ` Lior Dotan
2008-06-15 8:15 ` Lior Dotan
2008-06-16 0:24 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-16 7:33 ` Lior Dotan
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #9791] Clock is running too fast^Wslow using acpi_pm clocksource Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10843] Display artifacts on XOrg logout with PAT kernel and VESA framebuffer Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 22:09 ` Frans Pop
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10830] two different oopses with 2.6.26-rc4 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10794] mips: CONF_CM_DEFAULT build error Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-11 18:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10799] sky2 general protection fault Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10860] total system freeze at boot with 2.6.26-rc Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 22:24 ` Vegard Nossum
2008-06-08 16:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10868] Oops on loading ipaq module since 2.6.26, prevents use of device Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10861] 2.6.26-rc4-git2 - long pause during boot Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-07 20:42 ` [Bug #10786] 2.6.26-rc3 64bit SMP does not boot on J5600 Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <dCRO4tbfLzK.A.XbF.I6vSIB@albercik>
2008-06-10 2:58 ` [Bug #10614] WARNING: at include/linux/blkdev.h:431 blk_queue_init_tags+0x110/0x11f() Nick Piggin
2008-06-10 7:42 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-10 14:52 ` James Bottomley
2008-06-10 18:57 ` Jens Axboe
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