From: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 0/9] U-boot-V2: Introduce I2C support for SDP3430
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:58:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080618155822.GF6603@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48592C32.60900@freescale.com>
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:39:30AM -0500, Timur Tabi wrote:
> Menon, Nishanth wrote:
>
> > Please see U-boot v2 here:
>
> Sorry, I didn't notice that your patch is for U-Boot V2.
>
> > It does not have i2c support. And IMHO, using kernel like i2c addition in U-Boot v2 is appropriate. Why this is not a bloat U-Boot v2?
>
> If it isn't, then it means that U-Boot V2 will be pretty bloated in general.
>
> > A) Now, if you just want i2c_transfer without any device interface, you don't need to compile in the CHARDEV.
> > B) Since we use a different linking strategy in U-Boot-v2 which uses gcc link stage to decide which functions be retained and which not, it is pretty neat to see all unused functionality disappear.
> > C) kernel has additional bus and class types which are useful when we think in terms of varied features, in u-boot v2, we don't have a bus and class, just a plain device+driver interface like the kernel + ioctls to allow "apps" to invoke functionality within the driver for the device. Very linux like, call it a micro-linux ;). So kernel i2c architecture fits u_boot v2 better that u-boot v1's architecture.
> > D) U-boot v2 has insmod + rmmod -> though this is still to be fixed, once it is fully functioning, you can loadb just the module feature you need. In fact, you could even have a filesystem with just modules....
> > E) Ofcourse, we work in a single threaded, no interrupt mode in u-boot v2+ don't care for any power management -> more savings there
>
> Sounds to me like U-Boot V2 is just a repacked Linux kernel. We could probably
> save ourselves a lot of trouble if we just took the DDR and CPU register
> initialization code in U-Boot and moved it to the kernel.
I've thought about going this way...
But the Linux Kernel typically has around 1M and still you don't have a
shell. U-Boot-v2 is not bigger in code size than V1 with similar
functionality.
You're right, I took a lot of code (and ideas) from the Linux
Kernel, but I'm too unsure if it's a good idea to adopt full-featured
frameworks like I2C from the kernel. BTW U-Boot-v1 does the same thing
with NAND support for example.
Sascha
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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-18 12:33 [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 0/9] U-boot-V2: Introduce I2C support for SDP3430 Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-18 14:55 ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-18 15:15 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-18 15:28 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-06-18 15:40 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-18 15:39 ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-18 15:52 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-18 15:58 ` Sascha Hauer [this message]
2008-06-18 16:04 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-18 18:38 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-18 18:48 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-18 19:11 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-18 20:21 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-18 20:44 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-18 20:52 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-19 15:10 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-19 15:11 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 1/9]U-boot-V2:ID: Add i2c_device_id Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-19 15:11 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 2/9]U-boot-V2:ID: Introduce idr Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-19 15:11 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 3/9]U-boot-V2:I2C: Introduce core Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-19 15:12 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 4/9]U-boot-V2:I2C: Introduce i2c-dev Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-19 15:12 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 5/9]U-boot-V2:cmd: add I2C commands Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-19 20:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-20 2:10 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-20 7:28 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-20 10:28 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-06-20 13:35 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-20 15:16 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-06-20 16:28 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-23 7:39 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-06-23 13:29 ` Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-21 2:34 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 4/9 Try 2]U-boot-V2:I2C: Introduce i2c-dev Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-24 8:05 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-06-25 1:48 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 4/9 Try 3]U-boot-V2:I2C: " Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-21 2:34 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 5/9 Try2]U-boot-V2:cmd: add I2C commands Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-21 7:23 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-22 18:56 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 5/9 Try 3]U-boot-V2:cmd: " Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-24 6:18 ` Sascha Hauer
2008-06-25 1:46 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 5/9 Try 4]U-boot-V2:cmd: " Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-19 15:12 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 6/9]U-boot-V2:cmd: I2C commands support Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-19 15:13 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 7/9]U-boot-V2:ARM:OMAP: OMAP classes Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-19 15:13 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 8/9]U-boot-V2:I2C:Busses: OMAP I2C Adapter Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-19 15:13 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 9/9]U-boot-V2:Boards:SDP3430 I2C bus1 Menon, Nishanth
2008-06-18 18:41 ` [U-Boot-Users] [Patch 0/9] U-boot-V2: Introduce I2C support for SDP3430 Robert Schwebel
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