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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Adel Gadllah <adel.gadllah@gmail.com>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	pjones@redhat.com, dgilbert@interlog.com, matthew@wil.cx,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cmdfilter: extend default read filter
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:06:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080626180658.GG20851@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6cf6b73e0806261104s15f74cb6w8fad05164190e29@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 26 2008, Adel Gadllah wrote:
> 2008/6/26 Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>:
> > On Thu, Jun 26 2008, Adel Gadllah wrote:
> >> 2008/6/26 FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> >> > On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:08:46 +0900
> >> > FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:05:50 +0200
> >> >> "Adel Gadllah" <adel.gadllah@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > 2008/6/26 FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> >> >> > > On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:10:25 +0200
> >> >> > > "Adel Gadllah" <adel.gadllah@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> 2008/6/18 Peter Jones <pjones@redhat.com>:
> >> >> > >> > Douglas Gilbert wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Peter Jones wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>> FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> Well, this changes sg behaviour since sg's allow_ops filter has a
> >> >> > >> >>>> access permission different from blk_verify_command filter's.
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>>  >
> >> >> > >> >>>>
> >> >> > >> >>>> I guess that the first thing you need to do is that figuring out a
> >> >> > >> >>>> proper access permission for each command, which sg maintainer, etc
> >> >> > >> >>>> can agree. It's pretty hard and that's the reason why this patch has
> >> >> > >> >>>> not been merged for years, I think.
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>> I don't think this logic is sound.
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> That depends on your viewpoint.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > My viewpoint is this:
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > 1) Whether you agree with his reasons or not, Linus made it pretty clear
> >> >> > >> > that he's against removing the command filter (see
> >> >> > >> > http://marc.info/?l=linux-scsi&m=115419945212450&w=2 )
> >> >> > >> > 2) Having different code paths use different filtering code just adds more
> >> >> > >> > confusion.
> >> >> > >> > 3) If we're going to have filtering, it should be configurable on a
> >> >> > >> > per-device basis from userland.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Which of these do you disagree with?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > [...]
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> Are per device command filters being proposed?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Yes, that's what the patch implements.  And it allows the userland to
> >> >> > >> > configure them according to the needs of the hardware.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Jens can we add merge this for .27 or does anyone still has objections?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I think that this patch makes sg's permission stricter. So this could
> >> >> > > break the existing user-space applications.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > any particular app in mind?
> >> >>
> >> >> No, but there would be some.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > for write access it still allows all commands (because there are some
> >> >> > userspace apps tha rely on this).
> >> >>
> >> >> Yeah, I know. But for read access, some commands will be blocked.
> >> >
> >> > I think that it's not a good idea to say "this patch could break
> >> > something but we have no idea about them. So we can merge this."
> >> >
> >> > It's better to loosen scsi_ioctl's permissions to match with sg's
> >> > permission.
> >>
> >> agreed.
> >>
> >> Jens please apply the attached patch on top of the old one.
> >
> > Thanks, I thought this had already been worked out when I saw the
> > previous discussion. Please verify that this patch then no longer causes
> > ANY different behaviour than what we already have, that's a prerequisite
> > for merging it.
> 
> With this patch all apps that worked with the old scsi_ioctl, bsg and
> sg filter should behave exactly the same as without the new filter
> infrastructure. (it adds no new restrictions)
> The only thing it adds is that it allows READ_CAPACITY, REPORT_LUNS,
> SERVICE_ACTION_IN, RECEIVE_DIAGNOSTIC and MAINTENANCE_IN_CMD for bsg
> and scsi_ioctl in read only mode.
> As this was already allowed using /dev/sg* the commands should be
> safe, so no regression added.

Alright, I think that is good enough. Thanks.

-- 
Jens Axboe


      reply	other threads:[~2008-06-26 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-26 15:53 [PATCH] cmdfilter: extend default read filter Adel Gadllah
2008-06-26 17:43 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-26 18:04   ` Adel Gadllah
2008-06-26 18:06     ` Jens Axboe [this message]

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