From: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>
Cc: ak@linux.intel.com, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
Carlos Corbacho <carlos@strangeworlds.co.uk>,
Jonathan Woithe <jwoithe@physics.adelaide.edu.au>,
malattia@linux.it, stelian@popies.net,
linux-next@vger.kernel.org,
Corentin CHARY <corentincj@iksaif.net>,
Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>,
Julia Jomantaite <julia.jomantaite@gmail.com>,
corsac@debian.org, dannybaumann@web.de, marcus@better.se,
Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ACPI Check for backlight support via ACPI video.ko otherwise use vendor ACPI drivers
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:58:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080710125844.GB8561@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200807101448.16662.trenn@suse.de>
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 02:48:12PM +0200, Thomas Renninger wrote:
> On Thursday 10 July 2008 14:24:54 Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 02:19:04PM +0200, Thomas Renninger wrote:
> > > Yes, I agree.
> > > Anyway, given the fact that video.ko was rather broken all the time, a
> > > reasonable solution for now is to exclude Dells from using it.
> >
> > No, the problem was that the backlight was simultaneously being altered
> > by two pieces of code. kpowersave is doing the backlight control via hal
> > (I assume), and hal should simply not provide the Dell backlight control
> > on systems that have ACPI video backlight control. There's no need to
> > have this policy in the kernel.
> Do you know Dells working with the video.ko driver?
Presumably the Inspiron 640M, since otherwise there's no way that that
bug could trigger.
> If you tell me video.ko, best with an IGD device and without one is working
> there, it can be removed. Even then talking with dcdbas developers how to
> inform their user space app first is a good idea.
The userspace app that needs fixing is hal. I'm already working on that.
> As Dell is cooking their own soup here and the dcdbas driver was reported to
> work correctly with ACPI brightness functions in BIOS it is ok to blacklist
> Dells here until the first test reports are coming in telling us that
> video.ko is actually working correctly there.
> Testing will be easy via boot param.
No, really, let's just fix the problem properly.
> I will not risk again that this whole bunch of our patches will be reverted
> on -rc6 again, because a Dell user is reporting a backlight regression.
> We then have the same situation we had when the "check for physical device was
> removed": The implementation is wrong but worked. The implementation is
> right, but does not work on a specific machine -> regression -> revert.
I've no idea at all why you think this is a kernel issue.
--
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org
prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-10 12:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-03 16:08 [PATCH 2/2] ACPI Check for backlight support via ACPI video.ko otherwise use vendor ACPI drivers Thomas Renninger
2008-07-03 16:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-03 22:29 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-09 14:49 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-09 14:57 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-09 16:00 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-10 10:07 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-10 11:00 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-10 11:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-10 11:15 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-10 11:19 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-10 11:36 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-10 11:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-10 12:19 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-10 12:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-07-10 12:48 ` Thomas Renninger
2008-07-10 12:58 ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
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