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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Cc: Containers <containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG][cryo] Create file on restart ?
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:18:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080717021834.GA21726@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080716212609.GB4278-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Quoting sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org (sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
> Serge E. Hallyn [serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org] wrote:
> | Quoting sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org (sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
> | > Serge E. Hallyn [serue-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org] wrote:
> | > | Quoting sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org (sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org):
> | > | > 
> | > | > cryo does not (cannot ?) recreate files if the application created
> | > | 
> | > | I think that's for the best.
> | > | 
> | > | Don't you?
> | > 
> | > I can understand that configuration or data files should exist, but
> | > not sure about temporary or log files that an application created
> | > upon start-up and expects to be present. Should the admin find
> | > out about them and create them by hand before restart ?
> | 
> | I think the admin should have set the destination environment such that
> | the task is restarted in the same network fs in the same directory, with
> | no files having been deleted.
> 
> or new files created ? For instance if the application was checkpointed
> before it created a temporary file with O_EXCL flag, that temporary
> file must not exist when restarting ?
> 
> | 
> | Am I wrong?
> 
> So we take a snapshot of the FS and checkpoint the application. Do they
> need to be atomic ? 
> 
> Eitherway, I withdraw the bug :-)

Well it's certainly beyond the scope of cryo.  I'd prefer if we didn't
have to snapshot the fs at each checkpoint (!) and I think any many or
most cases (think one long-running scientific app or seti@home that just
occasionally gets migrated or stopped for a reboot) it won't be an
issue.  But your point seems valid.

-serge

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-17  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-16 18:50 [BUG][cryo] Create file on restart ? sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found] ` <20080716185027.GA1335-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-16 19:26   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20080716192604.GA27454-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-16 20:45       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]         ` <20080716204529.GA4278-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-16 20:57           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <20080716205737.GA2082-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-16 21:26               ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]                 ` <20080716212609.GB4278-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-16 22:31                   ` Matt Helsley
     [not found]                     ` <1216247460.4844.177.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-16 23:20                       ` sukadev-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA
2008-07-17  2:21                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                         ` <20080717022134.GB21726-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-17 23:35                           ` Oren Laadan
2008-07-17  2:18                   ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2008-07-17 23:22                   ` Oren Laadan
2008-07-16 20:59       ` Matt Helsley

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