From: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
To: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Luis Carlos Cobo <luisca@cozybit.com>,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] mac80211: allow no mac address until firmware load
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:25:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200807281625.58188.mb@bu3sch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1217253465.28198.20.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Monday 28 July 2008 15:57:45 Dan Williams wrote:
> > (What are the udev problems, btw?)
>
> People seem to want persistent device names. Since the kernel doesn't
> provide stable device/bus enumeration, there are udev hacks (see
> attached from Fedora 9) that read the MAC address of the card on
> hot-plug and then assign it to a cached device name so that every time I
> plug in my Netgear MA401 it gets "eth2".
Yeah well. But using a pseudo-random MAC as a base to build a persistent
naming scheme on sounds pretty fragile to me. ;)
I think cards that don't supply MAC early simply cannot support
a really working persistent naming scheme well. udev should probably
just enumerate eth0 - ethX as it sees the devices. That's as good
as mixing a numbering scheme into a pseudo MAC, IMO. And it's
less confusing and it pushes a lot of policy decisions into userspace.
--
Greetings Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-28 14:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-10 14:57 [PATCH 1/6] mac80211: allow no mac address until firmware load Luis Carlos Cobo
2008-07-27 15:22 ` Dan Williams
2008-07-28 13:23 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-28 13:44 ` Michael Buesch
2008-07-28 13:56 ` Luis Carlos Cobo
2008-07-28 14:00 ` Michael Buesch
2008-07-28 14:59 ` Dan Williams
2008-07-28 15:07 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-28 15:14 ` Dan Williams
2008-07-28 15:58 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-28 16:22 ` Dan Williams
2008-07-30 11:17 ` Luis Carlos Cobo
2008-07-30 11:35 ` Dan Williams
2008-07-30 14:30 ` John W. Linville
2008-07-30 14:52 ` Luis Carlos Cobo
2008-07-28 13:57 ` Dan Williams
2008-07-28 14:25 ` Michael Buesch [this message]
2008-07-28 14:44 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-28 14:49 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-28 14:57 ` Dan Williams
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