From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1KTFdV-0004H3-LW for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:39:33 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTFdS-0004Fa-Ue for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:39:31 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KTFdS-0004Et-1u for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:39:30 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42640 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KTFdR-0004Ei-Ll for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:39:29 -0400 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:40054) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KTFdR-0002Qf-Le for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:39:29 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KTFVK-0005MY-Hk for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:31:07 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTFcF-0006z3-8L for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:38:15 +0200 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:38:15 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20080813123815.GA26618@thorin> References: <87od3x8ava.fsf@xs4all.nl> <1218627404.8757.13.camel@localhost> <20080813114851.GB25113@thorin> <1218629514.8757.27.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1218629514.8757.27.camel@localhost> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Idea: use menu hook to implement the savedefault command X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:39:31 -0000 On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 02:11:54PM +0200, Javier Martín wrote: > El mié, 13-08-2008 a las 13:48 +0200, Robert Millan escribió: > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 01:36:44PM +0200, Javier Martín wrote: > > > It might be unnecessarily complex, yes. What about a C#-delegate-like > > > approach? e.g.: > > > > > > function myhook() { > > > save_env > > > } > > > > While in the process of designing interfaces, finding inspiration in patent > > encumbered technologies is one of the last things I would recommend. > While parts of the .NET class library most certainly contain patented > code, the C# language itself is part of an ECMA specification, and thus > the delegate _syntax_ (not the actual implementation) would be safe to > use... Or so I think - patents make my mind spin T_T Being part of ECMA isn't any garantee of not being patent encumbered. ECMA will happily bless any specification you give them, even if it contains technical flaws, provided it's accompanied by enough money (OOXML is a good example of this). Last I checked, Microsoft had different patent policies for parts inside the spec than for parts outside of it, but they're both written in complex wording with lots of requisites that makes it very difficult to be sure the code will be free for every user. Since there isn't any real benefit for us in using their technology as a reference, I believe it's much better to avoid the problem altogether by not doing so. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."