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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Kenneth Goldman <kgoldman@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] integrity: TPM internel kernel interface
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:45:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080813144548.GA9157@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080813144040.30d40ec5@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 02:40:40PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > "goodies", the TCG technology does not protect against hardware
> > attacks such as replacing the TPM with a bogus device, replacing the
> > CRTM hardware, flashing the CRTM using a JTAG cable, lifting a TPM pin>
> > and asserting reset, using a JTAG cable to set breakpoints and alter
> > memory, etc.
> > 
> > For this use case, the attack model is a remote, software attack.  The>
> > user is not considered the attacker.
> 
> Surely if I can replace your TPM with alternative hardware then I can
> also replace it with virtualised software traps.

Yes, which in fact is what most people working on TPM support use
because the real hardware is just too slow :)

> [If there is a good document on this btw please just point me there
> instead and I'll go read further]

I recommend this one:
http://www.few.vu.nl/~srijith/publications/confs/sws07-final.pdf  :)


  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-13 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080808184349.999902616@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2008-08-08 18:55 ` [PATCH 1/4] integrity: TPM internel kernel interface Mimi Zohar
2008-08-09 18:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-11 21:13     ` Mimi Zohar
2008-08-12 19:30       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-12 20:57         ` Kenneth Goldman
2008-08-12 21:36           ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 13:46             ` Kenneth Goldman
2008-08-13 13:40               ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 14:45                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2008-08-13 16:39                 ` Kenneth Goldman
2008-08-12 23:16           ` Greg KH
2008-08-13 13:58             ` Kenneth Goldman
2008-08-13 16:56             ` Mimi Zohar
2008-08-14 11:12           ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-15 10:37             ` Peter Dolding
2008-08-15 18:50               ` Kenneth Goldman
2008-08-15 19:22                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-08-15 21:17                 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-18 15:01             ` Kenneth Goldman
2008-08-08 18:55 ` [PATCH 2/4] integrity: special fs magic Mimi Zohar
2008-08-08 19:04   ` Greg KH
2008-08-08 19:15     ` Greg KH
2008-08-08 19:50       ` Mimi Zohar
2008-08-08 23:07         ` Greg KH
2008-08-09 18:47       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-10 13:48         ` Mimi Zohar
2008-08-08 19:36     ` Mimi Zohar
2008-08-08 23:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-08 18:56 ` [PATCH 3/4] integrity: Linux Integrity Module(LIM) Mimi Zohar
2008-08-09 18:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-10 13:52     ` Mimi Zohar
2008-08-11 17:02       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-11 19:08         ` Mimi Zohar
2008-08-11 19:56           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-12  8:41             ` Peter Dolding
2008-08-12 19:29               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-13 10:44                 ` Peter Dolding
2008-08-13 14:11                   ` David Howells
2008-08-13 22:57                     ` Peter Dolding
2008-08-13 17:03             ` Mimi Zohar
2008-08-12 19:27         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-12 21:19           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-08-13 17:03             ` Mimi Zohar
2008-08-12 19:25       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-08 18:56 ` [PATCH 4/4] integrity: IMA as an integrity service provider Mimi Zohar
2008-08-08 20:06   ` Randy Dunlap
2008-10-07 18:00 [PATCH 0/4] integrity Mimi Zohar
2008-10-07 18:00 ` [PATCH 1/4] integrity: TPM internel kernel interface Mimi Zohar
2008-10-08  5:00   ` James Morris
2008-10-08 13:33     ` Rajiv Andrade
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-11-13  3:47 [PATCH 0/4] integrity Mimi Zohar
2008-11-13  3:47 ` [PATCH 1/4] integrity: TPM internel kernel interface Mimi Zohar
2008-11-20 16:43 [PATCH 0/4] integrity Mimi Zohar
2008-11-20 16:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] integrity: TPM internel kernel interface Mimi Zohar

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