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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	tvrtko.ursulin@sophos.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	andi@firstfloor.org, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, malware-list@lists.printk.net,
	malware-list-bounces@dmesg.printk.net, peterz@infradead.org,
	viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model?  well sorta.
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:34:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080814233430.GC13048@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080814212109.GM23859@fieldses.org>

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 05:21:09PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > I have not yet seen code actually using it at all, neither in mainline
> > nor on one of the many nfs development lists.
> 
> Oops, I'd love to, and it should be very easy.  How do I find out if
> i_version is supported on a given superblock?

We don't have a way of exporting this fact at the moment.  I assume
the best way would be to add a flag in struct super.

> There's nothing particularly "advanced" about this, by the way--this is
> a very minor variation on the caching model that nfs has always had, and
> our nfsv4 server is currently pretty broken without it.

Well, if you're willing to try it out, as I've mentioned on my
blog[1][2], ext4 is working pretty well on my laptop --- I'm running
it as my primary filesystem.  There are a few problems with ext3
filesystems converted to use ext4, as opposed to starting afresh via
"mke2fs -t ext4dev /dev/hdXX" that we've just found in the past week
(and fixed within a day or two, although they haven't been pushed to
Linus yet), but overall, it's been pretty stable.

So this would be a good time for someone who is familiar wiht NFSv4 to
try it out and let us know if the i_version support is as you would
like in ext4 --- we're in the bugfixing/stablization phase right now,
so this would be an ideal time to get that feedback.  For more
information, on how to get started, please see:

http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto

for instructions, and mount the filesystem with the "-o i_version"
mount option.

> Actually, it's pretty broken even on nfsv2/v3 for filesystems with poor
> time resolution.

And that's fixed in ext4 as well....

						- Ted

[1] http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/06/30/ext4-is-now-the-primary-filesystem-on-my-laptop/
[2] http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2008/08/08/fast-ext4-fsck-times/


  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-14 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-13 16:36 TALPA - a threat model? well sorta Eric Paris
2008-08-13 16:24 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 16:47   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 16:37     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 17:00       ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 19:59         ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 21:24           ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-13 21:13             ` Alan Cox
2008-08-13 21:35             ` Rik van Riel
2008-08-13 21:23               ` Alan Cox
2008-08-15  3:25                 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-15 20:16               ` Jan Harkes
2008-08-15 22:05                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-17 23:19                   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-17 23:26                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-17 21:11                       ` David Collier-Brown
2008-08-18 15:33                     ` Alan Cox
2008-08-18 16:43                       ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]                         ` <20080819071416.GA14731@elf.ucw.cz>
2008-08-19 16:10                           ` HSM (was Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta.) Rik van Riel
2008-08-19 19:20                             ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-19 20:33                               ` Rik van Riel
2008-08-20 17:03                                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-13 17:07   ` TALPA - a threat model? well sorta Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-14 13:00   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-13 16:57 ` Greg KH
2008-08-13 17:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-13 18:15   ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-13 18:21     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-14  9:18       ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-13 19:02     ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 19:29       ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-13 21:15         ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-14  9:30         ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-14 12:03           ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-14 12:27             ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-15 14:31               ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-14 13:24           ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 13:48             ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 15:50               ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 17:29                 ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 19:17                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 19:20                     ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 19:34                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-14 19:41                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-14 20:20                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-14 21:21                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-14 23:34                             ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2008-08-19 21:43                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-15  1:44                         ` david
2008-08-15  2:04                           ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-15  3:41                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-15  5:05                               ` david
2008-08-15  5:12                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2008-08-15  5:28                                   ` david
2008-08-15  5:36                                 ` david
2008-08-15  4:48                             ` david
2008-08-15  8:51                             ` Alan Cox
2008-08-15 14:37                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-13 18:57   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-13 21:39     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-14 14:12       ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14 15:57         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-15 10:07         ` Helge Hafting
2008-08-15 10:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-15 13:10             ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 13:18               ` douglas.leeder
2008-08-15 17:04                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-15 18:09                   ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-18 10:09                     ` Helge Hafting
2008-08-18 10:14                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-18 10:24                         ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-18 10:25                       ` douglas.leeder
2008-08-15 16:25               ` david
2008-08-15 16:30                 ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 17:33                   ` david
2008-08-15 17:40                     ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 17:47                       ` david
2008-08-15 18:06                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-08-15 20:05                           ` david
2008-08-15 20:17                           ` Theodore Tso
2008-08-15 18:17                         ` Press, Jonathan
2008-08-15 20:08                           ` david
2008-08-18 10:02               ` Helge Hafting
2008-08-15 10:44           ` tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-14  9:46     ` [malware-list] " tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-14 13:46       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-15  1:37       ` david
2008-08-15  1:31   ` david
2008-08-15 16:06   ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-18 12:21     ` david
2008-08-18 13:30       ` Pavel Machek
2008-08-19  0:03         ` david
2008-08-13 18:17 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-13 18:21   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-13 18:24   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-13 18:40   ` Eric Paris
2008-08-14  0:18   ` Mihai Donțu
2008-08-14 11:58     ` [malware-list] " Press, Jonathan
2008-08-14 12:34       ` Mihai Donțu
2008-08-14  0:14 ` 7v5w7go9ub0o
2008-08-14  2:25   ` 7v5w7go9ub0o

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