From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Phillip Lougher <phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk>
Cc: jaredeh@gmail.com, Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
"Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>,
tim.bird@am.sony.com, cotte@de.ibm.com, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] AXFS: axfs_inode.c
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:00:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808221200.26052.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48AE22F5.3000309@lougher.demon.co.uk>
On Friday 22 August 2008, Phillip Lougher wrote:
> >
> > This looks very nice, but could use some comments about how the data is
> > actually stored on disk. It took me some time to figure out that it actually
> > allows to do tail merging into compressed blocks, which I was about to suggest
> > you implement ;-). Cramfs doesn't have them, and I found that they are the
> > main reason why squashfs compresses better than cramfs, besides the default
> > block size, which you can change on either one.
>
> Squashfs has much larger block sizes than cramfs (last time I looked it
> was limited to 4K blocks), and it compresses the metadata which helps to
> get better compression. But tail merging (fragments in Squashfs
> terminology) is obviously a major reason why Squashfs gets good compression.
The *default* block size in cramfs is smaller than in squashfs, but they both
have user selectable block sizes. I found the impact of compressed metadata
to be almost zero. I hacked up a mksquashfs to avoid tail merging, and found
that the image size for squashfs and cramfs is practically identical if you
use the same block size and no tail merging.
> The AXFS code is rather obscure but it doesn't look to me that it does
> tail merging. The following code wouldn't work if the block in question
> was a tail contained in a larger block. It assumes the block extends to
> the end of the compressed block (cblk_size - cnode_offset).
yes, I thought the same thing when I first read that code, and was about
to send a lengthy reply about how it should be changed when I saw that
it already does exactly that ;-).
Arnd <><
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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Phillip Lougher <phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk>
Cc: cotte@de.ibm.com, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>,
Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
tim.bird@am.sony.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] AXFS: axfs_inode.c
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:00:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808221200.26052.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48AE22F5.3000309@lougher.demon.co.uk>
On Friday 22 August 2008, Phillip Lougher wrote:
> >
> > This looks very nice, but could use some comments about how the data is
> > actually stored on disk. It took me some time to figure out that it actually
> > allows to do tail merging into compressed blocks, which I was about to suggest
> > you implement ;-). Cramfs doesn't have them, and I found that they are the
> > main reason why squashfs compresses better than cramfs, besides the default
> > block size, which you can change on either one.
>
> Squashfs has much larger block sizes than cramfs (last time I looked it
> was limited to 4K blocks), and it compresses the metadata which helps to
> get better compression. But tail merging (fragments in Squashfs
> terminology) is obviously a major reason why Squashfs gets good compression.
The *default* block size in cramfs is smaller than in squashfs, but they both
have user selectable block sizes. I found the impact of compressed metadata
to be almost zero. I hacked up a mksquashfs to avoid tail merging, and found
that the image size for squashfs and cramfs is practically identical if you
use the same block size and no tail merging.
> The AXFS code is rather obscure but it doesn't look to me that it does
> tail merging. The following code wouldn't work if the block in question
> was a tail contained in a larger block. It assumes the block extends to
> the end of the compressed block (cblk_size - cnode_offset).
yes, I thought the same thing when I first read that code, and was about
to send a lengthy reply about how it should be changed when I saw that
it already does exactly that ;-).
Arnd <><
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-22 10:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-21 5:45 [PATCH 04/10] AXFS: axfs_inode.c Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 5:45 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 8:35 ` Carsten Otte
2008-08-21 8:35 ` Carsten Otte
2008-08-21 11:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 11:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 12:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 12:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 12:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 15:06 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 15:06 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 15:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 15:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 15:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-22 2:22 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 2:22 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 3:23 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22 3:23 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22 3:29 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 3:29 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 10:00 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2008-08-22 10:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-22 17:08 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 17:08 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 17:19 ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-22 17:19 ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-22 17:19 ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-22 18:04 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22 18:04 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22 0:21 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 0:21 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 0:21 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 3:27 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22 3:27 ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22 3:46 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 3:46 ` Phillip Lougher
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