From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
jarkao2@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, denys@visp.net.lb,
Jussi Kivilinna <jussi.kivilinna@mbnet.fi>,
jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pkt_sched: Destroy gen estimators under rtnl_lock().
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:50:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080826085029.44a26f56@speedy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080826124153.GA2732@gondor.apana.org.au>
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:41:53 +1000
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> wrote:
> (Adding Jamal to the cc)
>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 08:24:55AM -0400, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >
> > The problem with netem as child of TBF is that TBF counts the number
> > of packets in the queue to determine the rate. Therefore TBF gets confused
> > about the rate because of the large number of packets that are held in
> > netem when delaying.
>
> OK I'm probably missing something. I can't find any code in TBF
> that looks at the number of packets held in the queue. All it
> does is look at the dequeued packet and whether we have enough
> tokens to send it right now.
>
> In any case, looking at the number of packets in the queue sounds
> broken for TBF as the packets could be held in upper-level queues
> which are invisible.
>
> Cheers,
> --
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> Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
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Last time I tried TBF(100kbit) { netem(+100ms) } it gave different answers
than netem(+100ms) { TBF(100kbit) }.
I would prefer a peek() to the current dequeue/requeue.
An alternative would be to have netem keep a parallel data structure with
the time to send for all packets, but that would be assuming the underlying
qdisc's were work conserving.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-26 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 209+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-11 20:53 [PATCH] pkt_sched: Destroy gen estimators under rtnl_lock() Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-12 1:12 ` David Miller
2008-08-12 5:20 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-12 5:40 ` David Miller
2008-08-12 7:00 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-12 8:15 ` David Miller
2008-08-12 10:38 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 4:30 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-13 5:11 ` David Miller
2008-08-13 5:31 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-13 9:30 ` David Miller
2008-08-13 6:13 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 6:16 ` David Miller
2008-08-13 6:53 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 7:31 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 9:25 ` David Miller
2008-08-13 9:58 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-13 10:27 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 10:42 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 10:42 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-13 10:50 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 22:19 ` David Miller
2008-08-14 7:59 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-14 8:16 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-14 8:31 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-14 8:33 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-14 8:44 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-14 8:52 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-17 22:57 ` David Miller
2008-08-17 23:03 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 1:25 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-18 1:35 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 1:36 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-18 1:49 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 4:27 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-18 4:31 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 4:36 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-18 5:13 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 6:08 ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-18 6:13 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 6:27 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-18 6:38 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 21:29 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-18 23:47 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 10:31 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 10:51 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 10:54 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 10:55 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 10:58 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 11:02 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 11:11 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 16:48 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 22:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-20 11:56 ` [PATCH] pkt_sched: Fix qdisc_watchdog() vs. dev_deactivate() race Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-20 12:16 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 5:17 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 5:49 ` [PATCH take 2] " Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 6:10 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 6:49 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 7:16 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 7:52 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 8:00 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 8:27 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 8:35 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 8:47 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-11 10:39 ` David Miller
2008-09-11 10:45 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-11 10:49 ` David Miller
2008-09-11 11:00 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-11 11:42 ` David Miller
2008-09-11 11:45 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-11 11:47 ` David Miller
2008-09-12 4:49 ` David Miller
2008-09-12 8:02 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-12 23:10 ` David Miller
2008-09-13 1:10 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-13 1:22 ` David Miller
2008-09-13 1:27 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-13 1:40 ` David Miller
2008-09-13 1:48 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-13 20:54 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-14 6:16 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-14 10:31 ` Alexander Duyck
2008-09-14 21:43 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-14 22:13 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-15 6:07 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-15 6:19 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-15 7:20 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-15 7:45 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-15 23:44 ` Duyck, Alexander H
2008-09-16 10:47 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-17 2:31 ` Alexander Duyck
2008-09-14 11:56 ` jamal
2008-09-14 20:27 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-20 7:21 ` David Miller
2008-09-20 7:25 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-20 7:28 ` David Miller
2008-09-20 23:48 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-21 5:35 ` David Miller
2008-09-21 5:50 ` David Miller
2008-09-21 6:38 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-21 7:03 ` David Miller
2008-09-23 6:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-24 7:15 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-24 8:04 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-24 8:28 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-21 15:25 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-21 9:57 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-21 10:18 ` David Miller
2008-09-21 11:15 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-23 5:16 ` David Miller
2008-09-23 8:02 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-23 8:06 ` David Miller
2008-09-11 11:51 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-11 11:54 ` Herbert Xu
2008-09-11 12:10 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-09-11 12:34 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 12:11 ` David Miller
2008-08-14 8:17 ` [PATCH] pkt_sched: Destroy gen estimators under rtnl_lock() Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-14 11:24 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-17 13:42 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-17 21:34 ` David Miller
2008-08-17 22:22 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-17 22:32 ` David Miller
2008-08-18 20:12 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-18 23:54 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 0:05 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 0:11 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 4:07 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 5:27 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-08-19 5:30 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 6:46 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 7:03 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 7:23 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 7:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 7:35 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 7:46 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 7:56 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 8:05 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 8:17 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 8:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 8:32 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 8:41 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 8:48 ` David Miller
2008-08-19 8:50 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 8:39 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-19 8:55 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-19 9:16 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 10:01 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 10:05 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 10:11 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 10:18 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 10:21 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 10:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 10:33 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 10:51 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 11:20 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 11:26 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 11:55 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 12:01 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 12:19 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 12:22 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 12:27 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 12:35 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 12:48 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 12:55 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 13:12 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 18:58 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 21:14 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 22:23 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 8:49 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-22 8:55 ` David Miller
2008-08-22 10:07 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 10:27 ` David Miller
2008-08-22 11:02 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 11:38 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-22 11:42 ` David Miller
2008-08-22 12:09 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-22 12:11 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 12:18 ` David Miller
2008-08-22 12:45 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-24 23:26 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-08-24 23:49 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-25 0:29 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-08-26 7:35 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-26 7:47 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-26 12:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-08-26 12:41 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-26 12:50 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2008-08-26 12:56 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-27 12:17 ` Bastian Bloessl
2008-08-27 9:32 ` David Miller
2008-08-27 9:56 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 12:25 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-23 12:15 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 20:40 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 22:24 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 8:41 ` [PATCH] pkt_sched: Fix qdisc list locking Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-22 10:14 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 9:27 ` [PATCH take 2] " Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-22 10:15 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-22 10:28 ` David Miller
2008-08-22 10:23 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 12:49 ` [PATCH] pkt_sched: Destroy gen estimators under rtnl_lock() Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-21 12:51 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-21 12:06 ` David Miller
2008-08-21 10:18 ` Herbert Xu
2008-08-12 22:02 ` [PATCH take 2] pkt_sched: Protect gen estimators under est_lock Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-13 22:20 ` David Miller
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