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From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	Denys Fedoryshchenko <denys@visp.net.lb>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: loaded router, excessive getnstimeofday in oprofile
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:17:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080827091706.574f2fae@extreme> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vdxmr53f.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:54:12 +0200
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:

> Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru> writes:
> >
> > Yup, this innocent toys can end up with this such behaviour on modern
> > highly loaded machines.
> 
> I and also other people had some patches to move the time stamp
> measuring into the socket. This way the time stamping didn't need to
> be enabled on all packets, only on those that actually end up at a
> socket that requires the time stamp.
> 
> Unfortunately DaveM didn't like it because some bank wanted
> different semantics, see the discussion in 
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network/91679
> 
> Perhaps you can find out which bank it was and send them a bill for
> your CPU time ;-)
> 
> -Andi
> 

Look at /proc/net/ptype to see if any AF_PACKET sockets are open.
There are several causes of this:
   * Applications like DHCP use AF_PACKET when they could use something else
   * AF_PACKET API was poorly designed and always has timestamps
   * The choice was made to get more accurate timestamps by stamping early in
     receive code. A better alternative would be to do it in protocol handler
     after the socket filter. Sorry, Andi socket layer is too late.
   * No driver is using hardware mechanisms to get accurate/free timestamps.
     I was working on sky2, but never was stable/complete.

Easist advice now is to fix userspace.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-27 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-22  1:57 loaded router, excessive getnstimeofday in oprofile Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-22  2:23 ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-26  9:51 ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-26 10:29   ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-26 10:47     ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-26 10:49       ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-26 11:07         ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-26 11:15           ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-26 11:16             ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-26 11:32               ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-26 11:32                 ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-26 20:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-08-26 20:44   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-26 20:51     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-08-27 12:09       ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-27 12:36         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-08-27 14:00           ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-27 14:23             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-08-27 12:54       ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 16:07         ` Rick Jones
2008-08-27 16:27           ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 16:49             ` Rick Jones
2008-08-27 16:56               ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 16:57                 ` Rick Jones
2008-08-27 17:27                 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-27 18:32                   ` loaded router, excessive getnstimeofday in oprofile\ Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 22:23                     ` David Miller
2008-08-27 22:38                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-27 22:18             ` loaded router, excessive getnstimeofday in oprofile David Miller
2008-08-27 22:39               ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-28  0:45                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-28  0:48                   ` David Miller
2008-08-28  1:07                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-27 16:17         ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2008-08-27 17:14           ` Jarek Poplawski
2008-08-27 21:34         ` David Miller
2008-08-28  2:39           ` Jason Uhlenkott
2008-08-28  3:10             ` David Miller
2008-08-28  6:28               ` Joe Malicki
2008-08-28  7:22                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-28 15:02                   ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-28 19:01                     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-08-28 19:31                     ` David Miller
2008-08-28 16:48                   ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-28 16:56                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-28 18:57                     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-28 19:25                       ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-28 19:37                         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-08-28 19:55                           ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-29 15:43                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-08-28 19:36                     ` David Miller
2008-08-28 19:59                       ` Denys Fedoryshchenko
2008-08-29 15:21                   ` Joe Malicki
2008-08-29 15:30                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-29 15:43                       ` Joe Malicki
2008-08-29 20:43                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-08-28 18:00                 ` Rick Jones
2008-08-28 19:42                   ` David Miller
2008-08-28 20:29                     ` Rick Jones
2008-08-28 20:32                       ` David Miller
2008-08-28 20:45                         ` Rick Jones
2008-08-28 20:47                           ` David Miller
2008-09-01  2:39                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-01  3:51                     ` David Miller
2008-09-01  4:08                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-01  4:10                         ` David Miller
2008-09-02 17:04                       ` Rick Jones
2008-08-28  3:35 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-08-28  8:49   ` Denys Fedoryshchenko

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