From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
To: Joy Latten <latten@austin.ibm.com>
Cc: "David P. Quigley" <dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov>,
gcwilson@us.ibm.com, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, serue@us.ibm.com,
tjaeger@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] labeled ipsec internet drafts
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:44:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808281144.25994.paul.moore@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1219879658.2883.221.camel@faith.austin.ibm.com>
On Wednesday 27 August 2008 7:27:38 pm Joy Latten wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-08-27 at 16:50 -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
...
> > I am currently waiting to see how the CALIPSO specification is
> > received by the general IETF SAAG community, especially the
> > assertion that explicit packet labeling is an important user
> > requirement. If the CALIPSO specification is well received I plan
> > on submitting a draft specification which will provide a more
> > general packet labeling mechanism for IPv6 and possibly IPv4.
>
> Do you mean one that would take a more generic label?
Yes. In addition, I'm starting to wonder about making it sufficiently
generic that the specification could be used beyond just security
labels; there may be other potential uses cases such as DPI which could
be greatly simplified through the use of a labeling specification.
> > The CALIPSO DOI is defined as a opaque 32 bit unsigned integer,
> > similar to CIPSO and your description of labeled NFS's DOI. The
> > dotted notation used in part of the CALIPSO draft is just a
> > convenient way of representing the value in the same way we
> > represent IPv4 addresses.
> >
> > The CALIPSO specification does set aside DOI ranges for specific
> > uses (is this the source of confusion?) which I think is a good
> > idea and I would encourage other protocols to follow suit.
>
> The CALIPSO draft restricted the amount of DOIs given to an
> organization. And I am thinking that if we share a DOI registry, I
> will need more than one if I want any security mechanism that uses
> labeled ipsec to also have a range for private use. I wasn't sure how
> this would fit into what the draft stated. Thus my confusion. But I
> do think it would be really great if we could share a registry and
> use DOIs in such a similar manner that we could even share the
> values. Am I making sense? What I mean is labeled ipsec could use the
> same DOIs as labeled nfs and CALIPSO. It would not have to allocate a
> separate range of them.
If everyone (labeled NFS, labeled networking, etc.) can agree on a
common DOI representation and registry I think this would make life
much easier for cross-domain solutions.
--
paul moore
linux @ hp
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-28 15:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-25 20:46 [RFC 1/2] labeled ipsec internet drafts Joy Latten
2008-08-25 21:42 ` David P. Quigley
2008-08-26 17:17 ` Joy Latten
2008-08-26 20:24 ` David P. Quigley
2008-08-27 16:17 ` Joy Latten
2008-08-27 16:49 ` David P. Quigley
2008-08-27 18:41 ` Joy Latten
2008-08-27 20:50 ` Paul Moore
2008-08-27 21:33 ` David P. Quigley
2008-08-27 22:56 ` Joy Latten
2008-08-28 16:08 ` Paul Moore
2008-08-27 23:27 ` Joy Latten
2008-08-28 15:44 ` Paul Moore [this message]
2008-08-27 21:21 ` David P. Quigley
2008-08-27 21:56 ` Paul Moore
2008-08-27 22:00 ` David P. Quigley
2008-08-28 15:49 ` Paul Moore
2008-08-28 0:22 ` Joy Latten
2008-08-28 1:30 ` Casey Schaufler
2008-08-28 15:58 ` Paul Moore
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-07-25 17:51 Joy Latten
2008-07-26 16:34 ` Paul Moore
2008-07-26 16:34 ` Paul Moore
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