From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [2/2] Don't complain about disabled irqs when the system has paniced
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:00:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080902150031.GN18288@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1220366717.8609.65.camel@twins>
On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 04:45:17PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 16:40 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 04:28:03PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 15:49 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > panic calls smp_send_stop which eventually calls smp_call_function_*.
> > > > smp_call_function warns about disabled interrupts. But it's legal
> > > > to call panic in this case. When this happens panic() prints
> > > > several ugly backtraces. So don't check for disabled interrupts
> > > > in panic state.
> > >
> > > While it might be legal for panic to be called from such contexts, I
> > > understand those warnings are there to warn of deadlocks.
> > >
> > > So with the below patch you allow panic to deadlock if I understand
> > > things correctly.
> >
> > Please describe the deadlock exactly. I don't think it can deadlock
> > in this case.
>
> Then why are those warnings there? The deadlock is for the CSD_FLAG_WAIT
> case, which can always happen due to the static csd data fallback.
>
> The deadlock scenario is long the lines of two such smp_call_function*()
> both under irq disabled calling each other with CSD_FLAG_WAIT set.
> Neither remote cpu will handle the IPI due to irqs being disabled, so
> we'll wait at-infinitum for completion.
First smp_send_stop does not wait (or at least not pass the
wait flag, it will still wait for the first ack like everyone else)
I don't claim to understand the new kernel/smp.c code (it seems to me quite
overdesigned and complicated and I admit I got lost in it somewhere),
but I think your scenario would rely on a global lock and presumably there
is none in the new code?
>
> > Besides do you prefer to not allow panic from interrupts/machine
> > checks etc. anymore?
>
> However did I imply that, I just said your fix looked iffy.
Well it would be the only alternative. Or have a timeout (I had
such a hack a long time ago) but that has also other issues.
In fact for smp_send_stop() it would be far better to just use an NMI,
but we unfortunately have a few BIOS that do not support NMI properly.
I think for 2.6.27 at least this is the best fix. At least keeping
panic that broken is no option I would say.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-02 14:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-02 13:49 [PATCH] [0/2] Fix panic regression in 2.6.27 Andi Kleen
2008-09-02 13:49 ` [PATCH] [1/2] Add a SYSTEM_PANIC state Andi Kleen
2008-09-03 19:04 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-03 19:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-03 19:32 ` Andrew Morton
2008-09-03 19:44 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-02 13:49 ` [PATCH] [2/2] Don't complain about disabled irqs when the system has paniced Andi Kleen
2008-09-02 14:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 14:40 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-02 14:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 15:00 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-09-03 6:02 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-03 6:59 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-03 9:37 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-03 9:48 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-03 10:17 ` Nick Piggin
2008-09-03 10:26 ` Jens Axboe
2008-09-12 19:50 ` Pavel Machek
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