From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>,
Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix TSC calibration issues
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 07:09:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080904050929.GA1678@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0809032141160.3378@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 09:53:35PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> >
> > Basically, I would do this :
> >
> > pit1 = readpit();
> > while (readpit() == pit1);
> > t1 = rdtsc(); // precise beginning of tick 0
> > while (readpit() != pit1 - 5000);
> > t2 = rdtsc(); // precise beginning of tick 5000
>
> There's a few caveats here:
>
> - the "readpit()" has to read without actually latching the value
>
> latching the PIT value will stop counting.
>
> - and all the docs say that you have to be careful about reading the PIT
> without latching it because the two 8-bit accesses aren't atomic.
Ah yes you're right, I remember having been doing crappy stuff like re-reading
and checking for difference bigger than 1.
> so the above will work in practice, but there are dangers.
>
> The best way to fix most of the dangers is probably to only care about the
> *high* byte, so that it doesn't matter if the low byte doesn't match the
> high byte.
>
> So you could probably change your version to wait for 4096 cycles (a
> change of 16 in the high byte):
>
> static unsigned char read_pit_msb(void)
> {
> /* Read but throw away the LSB */
> inb(0x42);
> return inb(0x42);
> }
>
> ..
> /* PIT ch2: square wave, full 16-bit count */
> outb(0xb6, 0x43);
> outb(0, 0x42);
> outb(0, 0x42);
> ..
>
> unsigned char pit = read_pit_msb();
> /* Wait until the MSB changes */
> while (read_pit_msb() == pit1);
> t1 = rdtsc();
> while ((unsigned char) (pit - read_pit_msb()) < 9);
> t2 = rdtsc();
>
> and it might work out ok without explicit latching, and without having to
> worry about low/high bytes being out of sync.
I like this variation.
> > If someone wants to test this, I'd be interested in the number of
> > ticks required to get a good accuracy, I bet that even with a few
> > hundred ones it's already precise by a few ppm (about the precision
> > of the input clock in fact).
>
> I actually tested a patch with a counter value of just 1024, and I got the
> right answer.
>
> But if the busy loops aren't busy (due to MSI or virtualization), then all
> those things fly out the window.
100% agreed, though the problem is already the same with any calibration code,
with more or less sensitivity.
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-04 5:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-31 22:54 Regression in 2.6.27 caused by commit bfc0f59 Larry Finger
2008-09-01 11:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 15:37 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 17:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 17:44 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 18:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 20:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 21:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 22:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 22:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 22:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 23:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 6:37 ` Andi Kleen
2008-09-02 12:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 22:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 23:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 3:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 3:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 4:54 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-02 9:17 ` Alan Cox
2008-09-02 12:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 15:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 18:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 18:41 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-02 21:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 21:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-02 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 23:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-03 1:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-02 22:54 ` [PATCH] Fix TSC calibration issues Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-03 2:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-03 9:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-04 1:14 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-04 2:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 3:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-04 3:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 4:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-04 4:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 4:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-09-04 4:25 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-09-04 4:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-04 5:09 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2008-09-04 1:18 ` [PATCH] Change warning message in TSC calibration Alok Kataria
2008-09-03 2:51 ` [PATCH] Fix TSC calibration issues Larry Finger
2008-09-03 4:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-03 4:34 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-05 13:45 ` Regression in 2.6.27 caused by commit bfc0f59 Mark Lord
2008-09-02 17:17 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-09-01 19:36 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 20:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 20:23 ` Larry Finger
2008-09-01 20:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-09-01 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-09-01 19:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
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