From: Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Boot parameters and geometrical stability
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:33:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080904193347.GD9133@thorin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48BE838E.9090204@gmail.com>
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 02:31:10PM +0200, phcoder wrote:
> >
> > I assume you talk about GRUB loading itself; what kind of information would
> > you pass from one GRUB to the other?
> Boot device,
Multiboot already handles that (although it's not reliable; I don't
think this feature should be used anyway).
> configuration file, parameters for scripts.
This assumes the loader knows more than the loadee about this information.
In which situation would this happen? Note that both loader and loadee can
obtain user input.
Which parameters do you have in mind?
> But much more
> useful this is for network boot. In this case GRUB can recieve server
> info in boot parameters so when this info changes there is no need to
> regenerate grub images.
Doesn't PXE already handle this?
> Cryptographic checksums wouldn't bring much
> because if attacker can modify harddrive he can also modify GRUB to skip
> checksum check.
The only way to restrict physical users from privileged access is by using
physical means. Everything else is mere obstruction.
Though, you can still run GRUB in your ROM (with coreboot), have it do the
crypto checksum from there, and restrict write access to the ROM (e.g. by
sinking it in concrete).
--
Robert Millan
The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-04 19:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-03 9:50 [RFC] Boot parameters and geometrical stability phcoder
2008-09-03 10:36 ` Robert Millan
2008-09-03 12:31 ` phcoder
2008-09-03 16:51 ` Vesa Jääskeläinen
2008-09-03 17:17 ` phcoder
2008-09-03 17:49 ` Vesa Jääskeläinen
2008-09-03 18:36 ` phcoder
2008-09-03 19:07 ` Vesa Jääskeläinen
2008-09-03 19:23 ` phcoder
2008-09-04 19:37 ` Robert Millan
2008-09-04 21:40 ` phcoder
2008-09-05 9:58 ` Robert Millan
2008-09-04 19:33 ` Robert Millan [this message]
2008-09-04 21:37 ` phcoder
2008-09-05 10:05 ` Robert Millan
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