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From: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
To: Kalle Valo <kalle.valo@nokia.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@gmail.com>,
	Helmut Schaa <hschaa@suse.de>, Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Jouni Malinen <j@w1.fi>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mac80211: notify the user space about low signal quality
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:21:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080923182114.GC26219@tuxdriver.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873ak0zcz9.fsf@nokia.com>

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:55:38AM +0300, Kalle Valo wrote:
> Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 11:07 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote:
> >
> >> I definitely want to see this background scan support in Wireless
> >> Extensions as well, otherwise it might prevent the real use of the
> >> feature.
> >
> > However, the more feature we keep stuffing into WEXT the less incentive
> > is there to actually do something about cfg80211. I'm with Luis here,
> > the fact that there are no tools anywhere is because those tools aren't
> > really very useful yet, not because it's not possible to get the tools
> > in.
> 
> I understand yours and Luis' points. But I still think that we should
> push cfg80211 acceptance first with the argument of more reliable
> method of configure 80211 devices, and only later start adding
> cfg80211-only features.

cfg80211-only features may be a great reason for people to move to
the new tools.  Considering how fragile WEXT has proven to be, I am
not at all in favor of continuing to extend it.

John
-- 
John W. Linville		Linux should be at the core
linville@tuxdriver.com			of your literate lifestyle.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-23 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-15 12:16 More thoughts about roaming Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 12:29 ` [RFC] Implement basic background scanning Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 14:32   ` Michael Buesch
2008-09-15 14:40     ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 15:59   ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 16:35     ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16  8:43       ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-16  9:10         ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-16  9:20           ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16 11:06             ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-16  9:15         ` Tomas Winkler
2008-09-15 12:35 ` [RFC] mac80211: notify the user space about low signal quality Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 14:07   ` Dan Williams
2008-09-15 14:34     ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 15:28       ` Dan Williams
2008-09-15 16:45         ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16  1:21           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2008-09-16  7:41             ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16  8:07             ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-16  8:12               ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-16  8:55                 ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-23 18:21                   ` John W. Linville [this message]
2008-09-16  8:00           ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-16  7:57         ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-15 15:10     ` Holger Schurig
2008-09-15 15:19       ` Dan Williams
2008-09-16  8:25         ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-16  8:50           ` Holger Schurig
2008-09-16  9:25             ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16  9:32             ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-16 10:23               ` Holger Schurig
2008-09-15 15:17     ` Holger Schurig
2008-09-16  7:53     ` Kalle Valo
2008-09-15 12:41 ` [RFC] wpa_supplicant: trigger a scan if signal quality is low Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 13:59 ` More thoughts about roaming Dan Williams
2008-09-15 14:18   ` Helmut Schaa
2008-09-15 14:45     ` Dan Williams
2008-09-16  7:09 ` Kalle Valo

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