From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1KjwWQ-0005a2-OU for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:41:14 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KjwWO-0005ZG-L6 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:41:12 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KjwWK-0005Xo-Td for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:41:11 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54730 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KjwWK-0005Xj-Ig for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:41:08 -0400 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:34375) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KjwWJ-00020S-Ki for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:41:08 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KjwJS-0007ZW-MN for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:27:51 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KjwUN-0006JL-2m for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:39:07 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:39:07 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20080928133907.GC23805@thorin> References: <20080926081627.GA8732@pina.cat> <20080926083411.GA8845@pina.cat> <1222427611.4210.1.camel@fz.local> <20080926121909.GB9530@pina.cat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080926121909.GB9530@pina.cat> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: localization of Grub X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:41:12 -0000 On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 02:19:09PM +0200, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > > > This is wanted but nobody did work on this yet afaik. > > It would be good if there would be multiple keyboard layouts too I > > think. > > I think that different keyboard layouts it's even more important than > different languages... > > Do we have any plan? Maybe I will take a look (but during 20 days in > october I will not have lot of time :-( so not sure if I will do it > after October or not, I will see...) > > Any suggestion for the implementation? How user would change the > keyboard layout? Or maybe at beginning some setting (variable) at > grub.cfg? Hi, It's very nice you want to work on localisation. This is a very welcome feature (and I think it's been discussed before). (I assume we're talking about a gettext equivalent rather than keyboard layouts, which is a separate -but also nice- feature) My recommendation for a roadmap (please comment/discuss/challenge/etc!) would be: - gettextise the util tools, so they can be translated as normal programs. - add support to grub (a gettext module or so) so that it can load our .mo files and obtain strings from it, by implementing gettext() (aka _()). I'd also recommend making the user interface similar to posix locales, for consistency's sake (which you know I hold dearly ;-)). Even if you only have time/interest to implement the first part, this is already a significant benefit. Keep in mind that grub.cfg generation is done by update-grub which happens entirely on userland, so we get translated menu entries that way. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."