From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1Kk49U-0007Ys-K9 for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:50:04 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kk49S-0007YL-20 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:50:02 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kk49P-0007Y6-Mv for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:50:00 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57868 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kk49P-0007Y3-HO for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:49:59 -0400 Received: from 197.red-80-32-81.staticip.rima-tde.net ([80.32.81.197]:40257 helo=mail.pina.cat) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kk49O-0006Ue-B7 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:49:59 -0400 Received: from pinux (60.61.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es [87.221.61.60]) by mail.pina.cat (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9089288FBA1E for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:49:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by pinux (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 66DDF7C6C; Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:49:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:49:54 +0200 From: Carles Pina i Estany To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20080928214954.GB5259@pina.cat> References: <20080926081627.GA8732@pina.cat> <20080926083411.GA8845@pina.cat> <1222427611.4210.1.camel@fz.local> <20080926121909.GB9530@pina.cat> <20080928133907.GC23805@thorin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080928133907.GC23805@thorin> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: localization of Grub X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:50:02 -0000 Hello, On Sep/28/2008, Robert Millan wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 02:19:09PM +0200, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > > > > > This is wanted but nobody did work on this yet afaik. > > > It would be good if there would be multiple keyboard layouts too I > > > think. > > > > I think that different keyboard layouts it's even more important than > > different languages... > > > > Do we have any plan? Maybe I will take a look (but during 20 days in > > october I will not have lot of time :-( so not sure if I will do it > > after October or not, I will see...) > > > > Any suggestion for the implementation? How user would change the > > keyboard layout? Or maybe at beginning some setting (variable) at > > grub.cfg? > > Hi, > > It's very nice you want to work on localisation. This is a very welcome > feature (and I think it's been discussed before). > > (I assume we're talking about a gettext equivalent rather than keyboard > layouts, which is a separate -but also nice- feature) Yes, I was talking about gettext/equivalent (I will send another email talking about keyboard layouts) > My recommendation for a roadmap (please comment/discuss/challenge/etc!) would > be: > > - gettextise the util tools, so they can be translated as normal > programs. ok! (I guess/hope that will be more "burocratic" work than new work) > - add support to grub (a gettext module or so) so that it can load our .mo > files and obtain strings from it, by implementing gettext() (aka _()). this is the interesting part, I think :-) > I'd also recommend making the user interface similar to posix locales, for > consistency's sake (which you know I hold dearly ;-)). I know! > Even if you only have time/interest to implement the first part, this > is already a significant benefit. Keep in mind that grub.cfg > generation is done by update-grub which happens entirely on userland, > so we get translated menu entries that way. I don't expect to have time until 22th October (aprox.). I have more interest in the second part (it's "newer") than first part, but first part has a practical and fast effects with (I think) less investment. I think that I will do both things, but will take some time. If somebody has time/interest to do it before: please, raise your hand! -- Carles Pina i Estany GPG id: 0x17756391 http://pinux.info