From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1KmRSq-0006Ka-LP for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:07:52 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KmRSp-0006Jz-6o for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:07:51 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KmRSn-0006JK-KJ for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:07:50 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58081 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KmRSn-0006JF-Gt for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:07:49 -0400 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:46378) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KmRSn-0003ez-EC for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:07:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KmRFH-00046Y-1N for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:53:51 +0200 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KmRQy-0003tn-Df for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:05:56 +0200 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:05:56 +0200 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20081005110556.GC5541@thorin> References: <20080928215812.GC5259@pina.cat> <48E11DF2.3050804@nic.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <48E11DF2.3050804@nic.fi> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: [RFC] Different keyborad layouts X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 11:07:51 -0000 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 09:26:58PM +0300, Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote: > > Remember that in some keyboard you need to press combos in order to > generate some character. Like in Finnish keyboard you press alt-gr + e > in order to generate euro sign (or alt-gr + 5). Also there are > multi-keypress sequences like in order to make '^' this sign you have to > press ctrl + '^' button and when released then press space. If you > happen to press in example 'a' after ctrl + '^' key you get 'â'. And I > do not think this is the only keyboard with this feature. Also there is > those dec input sequences like alt+number sequence. In example alt > (pressed) + '6', '5' you get 'A'. Do we really want to support all keys (and therefore all minor keyboard variants) out there, or just those needed for metacharacters like '/' and such? > I do not like the idea of using variable for this as it will most likely > require loading of keymap definition form disk. So I would prefer something: > > insmod keymap > keymap /boot/grub/keyboard/fi Seems fine to me. Note, however, that with the information currently exported by e.g. at_keyboard.c it isn't possible to tell when special combinations like "alt-gr + 5" were pressed. There's quite a bit of pending rework for the input/output split (handlers?) and USB keyboards (multiple input sources). Perhaps it'd be better to address this when the fundamentals have been laid out? Btw, what happened to the handlers patch? I thought it was about to be merged. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."