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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arnd@arndb.de,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Track in-kernel when we expect checkpoint/restart to work
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:28:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081010152831.GA28977@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48EF7211.2000303@cs.columbia.edu>


* Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu> wrote:

> 
> 
> Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>> By the way, why don't you introduce the reverse operation ?
> >> I think implementing the reverse operation will be a nightmare, IMHO 
> >> it is safe to say we deny checkpointing for the process life-cycle 
> >> either if the created resource was destroyed before we initiate the 
> >> checkpoint.
> > 
> > it's also a not too interesting case. The end goal is to just be able to 
> > checkpoint everything that matters - in the long run there simply wont 
> > be many places that are marked 'cannot checkpoint'.
> > 
> > So the ability to deny a checkpoint is a transitional feature - a 
> > flexible CR todo list in essence - but also needed for 
> > applications/users that want to rely on CR being a dependable facility.
> > 
> > It would be bad for most of the practical usecases of checkpointing to 
> > allow the checkpointing of an app, just to see it break on restore due 
> > to lost context.
> 
> Actually it need not wait for restore to fail - it can fail during the 
> checkpoint, as soon as the unsupported feature is encountered.

correct, that is the idea.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-10 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-09 19:04 [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Track in-kernel when we expect checkpoint/restart to work Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 19:04 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] first callers of process_deny_checkpoint() Dave Hansen
2008-10-09 19:43   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-09 19:43   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-09 20:54     ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10  8:46       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10  8:46         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 13:17         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]           ` <200810101517.17809.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 14:54             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 14:54           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20081010145422.GE11695-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 19:53               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-10 19:53             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <200810102153.45174.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 19:53                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 19:53               ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                 ` <20081010195339.GA509-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 20:40                   ` Len Brown
2008-10-10 22:57                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-10 20:40                 ` Len Brown
2008-10-10 22:57                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]         ` <20081010084614.GA319-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 13:17           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-11 13:48           ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-11 13:48         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]           ` <20081011134803.GA1483-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-11 15:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-11 15:00           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 10:27       ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10 10:27       ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]     ` <20081009194350.GA31214-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-09 20:54       ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10  8:41   ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10  8:41   ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10 10:17   ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-10 14:04     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]       ` <20081010140430.GA14640-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 16:45         ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10 16:45       ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10 17:13         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <1223657132.10017.42.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 17:13           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-10 17:28           ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 17:28         ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-13  8:20           ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-13  8:20           ` Greg Kurz
     [not found]     ` <48EF2BAB.1010009-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 14:04       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-10 10:17   ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-10-09 19:04 ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10  8:20 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] Track in-kernel when we expect checkpoint/restart to work Greg Kurz
2008-10-10  8:37   ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10 10:11     ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 14:59     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]       ` <20081010145934.GF11695-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 15:17         ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 15:17       ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 15:28         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
     [not found]         ` <48EF7211.2000303-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 15:28           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 16:34           ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10 16:34         ` Greg Kurz
     [not found]           ` <1223656489.10017.33.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10 16:36             ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 16:36               ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 20:57               ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10 20:57               ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10 17:18             ` Chris Friesen
2008-10-10 17:18           ` Chris Friesen
     [not found]             ` <48EF8E77.8050000-ZIRUuHA3oDzQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-13  8:18               ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-13  8:18             ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-13 16:46               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]               ` <1223885897.4404.5.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-13 16:46                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <48EF144D.1050906-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10  8:47       ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10  8:47         ` Greg Kurz
2008-10-10 10:11       ` Oren Laadan
2008-10-10 14:59       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-10 16:33       ` Dave Hansen
2008-10-10 16:33         ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]   ` <1223626834.8787.8.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-10  8:37     ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-10-10  8:20 ` Greg Kurz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-10-09 19:04 Dave Hansen

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