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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	rjw@sisk.pl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ncunningham@crca.org.au, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Freezer: Don't count threads waiting for frozen filesystems.
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:56:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081029235600.GA5993@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0810291627040.3986-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 04:37:30PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:

> I discussed this last summer with Rafael.  It's a lot harder than it 
> looks, for all sorts of reasons.  For example, what about user tasks 
> that have access to memory-mapped I/O regions?

The only interesting cases of this I know of are X (which ought to stop 
doing so in the near future) and certain sound operations (which are 
going via a well-defined API anyway and need to handle devices going 
away at random, so not a problem). There may be some other niche cases, 
but really - if you're mmapping hardware then it's generally because you 
haven't written a proper kernel driver. Do that instead. Runtime power 
management's already going to make you wildly unhappy.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-29 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-24 22:07 Freezer: Don't count threads waiting for frozen filesystems Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-26 20:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-26 20:01 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-27 11:12   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 11:12   ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 11:20     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 11:37       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-27 11:40         ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 12:38           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 12:38           ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 20:59             ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 21:09               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 21:09               ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 22:13                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 22:13                 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 20:25                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 21:29                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 21:29                     ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 21:51                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 22:00                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-28 22:02                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 22:21                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-28 23:21                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:21                               ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:59                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-28 23:59                                 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-29  8:10                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29  8:10                                   ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 13:51                                     ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 14:50                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 15:28                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 15:28                                         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-10-29 15:50                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 15:50                                           ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 16:17                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 16:17                                             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-10-29 16:10                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 20:37                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-10-29 20:37                                             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-10-29 21:11                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-29 21:11                                               ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-29 21:45                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-29 21:45                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-29 22:07                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-29 23:53                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-09 13:44                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-09 13:44                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-29 23:53                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 22:07                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-29 23:48                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 23:48                                                   ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 13:04                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-30 13:56                                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-10-30 13:56                                                         ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-10-30 21:44                                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-31  8:49                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-31  9:10                                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-31  9:16                                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-31 11:28                                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-31 12:44                                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-31 12:44                                                                   ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-31 21:11                                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-31 21:11                                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-31 11:28                                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-31  8:49                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 21:44                                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-30 13:04                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-29 23:43                                               ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 13:54                                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-10-30 13:54                                                 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-10-30 14:39                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 14:39                                                   ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 17:07                                                     ` Alan Stern
2008-10-30 17:07                                                     ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2008-10-30 17:43                                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 17:43                                                       ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-30 20:17                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-30 20:17                                                     ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-15 16:58                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-15 16:58                                                     ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2008-10-29 23:43                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 23:56                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2008-10-29 23:56                                               ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2008-10-29 16:10                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 14:50                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-29 13:51                                     ` Alan Stern
2008-10-28 22:21                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-28 22:02                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 22:00                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-28 22:03                         ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 22:03                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 21:51                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:04                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:04                     ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:12                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:12                       ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:17                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:24                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:41                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:45                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:50                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:58                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:58                                   ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:50                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:54                                 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:54                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:45                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:41                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 23:24                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-28 23:17                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 20:25                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 20:59             ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 11:40         ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-27 11:37       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-10-27 11:37       ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 11:37       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-27 11:20     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-10-28 17:49 ` Pavel Machek

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