From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulus@samba.org,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb()
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:34:36 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081108003436.GI6917@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0811071602160.3711@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 04:04:48PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > Would that make more sense ?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh, actually, I got things reversed in this email : the readl(io_addr)
> > > must be done _after_ the __m_cnt_hi read.
> > >
> > > Therefore, two consecutive executions would look like :
> > >
> > > barrier(); /* Make sure the compiler does not reorder __m_cnt_hi and
> > > previous mmio read. */
> > > read __m_cnt_hi
> > > smp_rmb(); /* Waits for every cached memory reads to complete */
> >
> > If these are MMIO reads, then you need rmb() rather than smp_rmb(),
> > at least on architectures that can reorder writes (Power, Itanium,
> > and I believe also ARM, ...).
>
> The read is from a clock source. The only writes that are happening is
> by the clock itself.
>
> On a UP system, is a rmb still needed? That is, can you have two reads on
> the same CPU from the clock source that will produce a backwards clock?
> That to me sounds like the clock interface is broken.
I do not believe that all CPUs are guaranteed to execute a sequence
of MMIO reads in order.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-08 0:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-07 5:23 [RFC patch 00/18] Trace Clock v2 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 01/18] get_cycles() : kconfig HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 02/18] get_cycles() : x86 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 03/18] get_cycles() : sparc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 04/18] get_cycles() : powerpc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 14:56 ` Josh Boyer
2008-11-07 18:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 05/18] get_cycles() : MIPS HAVE_GET_CYCLES_32 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 06/18] Trace clock generic Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 07/18] Trace clock core Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:52 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 6:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 6:26 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 16:19 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb() Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 6:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 8:12 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 8:38 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 11:20 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 15:01 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 15:50 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:21 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 16:29 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 17:10 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:26 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:21 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:30 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-11-07 18:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-07 18:45 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:47 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 16:55 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:21 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 20:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 16:07 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 16:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 17:04 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 23:27 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 20:11 ` Russell King
2008-11-07 21:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 21:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 22:18 ` Russell King
2008-11-07 22:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 22:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 23:41 ` David Howells
2008-11-08 0:15 ` Russell King
2008-11-08 0:45 ` David Howells
2008-11-08 15:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-08 23:20 ` [PATCH] clarify usage expectations for cnt32_to_63() Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 2:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-09 2:54 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 5:06 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 5:27 ` [PATCH v2] " Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 6:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-09 13:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 13:43 ` Russell King
2008-11-09 16:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-10 4:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 4:42 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 21:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 21:58 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 23:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 23:22 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 23:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-11 0:26 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-11 18:28 ` [PATCH] convert cnt32_to_63 to inline Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 19:13 ` Russell King
2008-11-11 20:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 20:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 21:51 ` Russell King
2008-11-12 3:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-12 3:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 21:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-11 21:13 ` Russell King
2008-11-11 22:31 ` David Howells
2008-11-11 22:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-12 1:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 11:03 ` [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb() David Howells
2008-11-07 16:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:18 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 23:55 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 10:59 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 10:55 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 17:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 19:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 19:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07 20:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-07 21:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-08 0:34 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2008-11-07 21:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 23:50 ` David Howells
2008-11-08 0:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-09 11:51 ` David Howells
2008-11-09 14:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-09 16:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 20:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-07 21:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:36 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 20:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 21:22 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 09/18] Powerpc : Trace clock Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 10/18] Sparc64 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:45 ` David Miller
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 11/18] LTTng timestamp sh Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 12/18] LTTng - TSC synchronicity test Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 13/18] x86 : remove arch-specific tsc_sync.c Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 14/18] MIPS use tsc_sync.c Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 15/18] MIPS : export hpt frequency for trace_clock Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 16/18] MIPS create empty sync_core() Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 17/18] MIPS : Trace clock Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 11:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07 17:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 18/18] x86 trace clock Mathieu Desnoyers
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