From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: muli@il.ibm.com, joerg.roedel@amd.com,
iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, mingo@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] AMD IOMMU updates for 2.6.28-rc5
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:51:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081120075139.GB11930@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081120132545Q.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
* FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> > > It had been the default option for AMD IOMMU until you hit the
> > > bugs. IIRC, VT-d also shares a protection domain by default. It
> > > would be nice to avoid surprising users if the two
> > > virtualization IOMMUs works in the similar way.
> >
> > Calgary has a per-bus protection domain, both on x86 and PPC.
>
> I see. Then it might be better to change VT-d to use a separate
> protection domain by default.
yes, agreed, and that should be the sane default for any IOMMU driver
- unless the performance impact is prohibitive.
Note that this widens the positive impact of the IOMMU code: not only
does it enable transparent support of DMA to/from devices that have a
limited DMA range, not only does it help isolation in virtualization -
it also acts as a daily debug helper for _native_ drivers.
Note that people will prefer to run with an IOMMU enabled even if all
devices support the full memory range - just due to the DMA protection
features. Just like people prefer to run an OS with paging protections
enabled ;-)
It also puts pressure on the hw design side to treat IOMMUs not just
as some fringe feature for compatibility with older transports or
virtualization, but also as a prime-time native IO feature.
Ingo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-20 7:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-18 15:43 [GIT PULL] AMD IOMMU updates for 2.6.28-rc5 Joerg Roedel
2008-11-18 15:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-19 6:05 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-11-19 9:25 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-11-19 9:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-20 4:25 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-11-20 11:31 ` Joerg Roedel
2008-11-19 12:57 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-11-20 4:25 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-11-20 7:51 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20081120075139.GB11930@elte.hu \
--to=mingo@elte.hu \
--cc=fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp \
--cc=iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org \
--cc=joerg.roedel@amd.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=muli@il.ibm.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.