From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Good place to drop preallocation on directories
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:05:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081120110555.GA30887@logfs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081119203242.GE29820@duck.suse.cz>
On Wed, 19 November 2008 21:32:42 +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
>
> I have a problem in UDF so I thought I'll post it here if someone has a
> good idea how to solve it.
> UDF does preallocation on directories (on files a well, but that is not a
> problem). Now this helps against directory fragmentation but there is an
> issue with it: When to drop this preallocation? Currently it is done in
> udf_clear_inode() which has two problems:
> 1) udf_clear_inode() is really called to late to do anything like freeing
> space from inode and UDF has to play some nasty tricks (like
> explicitely syncing inode, calling invalidate_inode_buffers() once
> more) to make everything work. Using udf_drop_inode() would be much
> better but that is called under i_lock so it's not really usable
> (unless I'd drop i_lock in it but then it would even nastier).
> 2) When you create lots of directories, they use quite some additional
> space for preallocation and there's not really a got way how to get rid
> of preallocated blocks than dropping dcache or umount + mount the
> filesystem.
>
> So after all I'm thinking whether directory preallocation is really worth
> the trouble. But before I go and rip it I'd like to check whether someone
> does not have some clever idea :).
Problem 2 has lru written all over, don't you think? Problem 1 is
similar to something I'm debugging this very moment. With some luck my
solution might work for you as well.
However, I don't see a big difference between files and directories yet.
Maybe because there shouldn't be, or maybe because I've been missing
something critical. Could you elaborate on that?
Jörn
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2008-11-19 20:32 Good place to drop preallocation on directories Jan Kara
2008-11-20 11:05 ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2008-11-20 13:10 ` Jan Kara
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