From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1L3wdz-00069s-UW for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:51:43 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L3wdy-00069X-CQ for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:51:42 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L3wdw-00069L-Qt for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:51:41 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50079 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L3wdw-00069I-O9 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:51:40 -0500 Received: from ns39764.ovh.net ([91.121.25.85]:51592 helo=nexedi.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L3wdw-0002fx-Ea for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:51:40 -0500 Received: from [10.8.0.46] (unknown [10.8.0.46]) by nexedi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55313DA32 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:51:39 +0100 (CET) From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" Organization: enbug.org To: The development of GRUB 2 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:51:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <511f47f50811190123m70b70b96l7bfb74f0fd20bcd1@mail.gmail.com> <511f47f50811200510w3596865ei4188225038f28b8a@mail.gmail.com> <1227198042.10629.6.camel@dv> In-Reply-To: <1227198042.10629.6.camel@dv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811221851.38569.okuji@enbug.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Subject: Re: [OT] made a blog post about grub 1.96+20080724 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:51:42 -0000 On Thursday 20 November 2008 17:20:42 Pavel Roskin wrote: > On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 18:40 +0530, shirish wrote: > > Hi all, > > Made it to the level I could understand > > > > http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/jaunty-and-grub2/#more-2 > >69 > > > > There are 2 issues though which I hope came out as well :- > > > > a. There is absolute lack of documentation about how and what a user > > is supposed to do. > > b. This should not be how an end-user should be doing this. I hope > > there is an emergence of a single or multiple GUI tools which lets > > end-users touch the /etc/init.d/grub and /etc/default/grub files and > > update the boot-loader. > > > > Suggestions, improvements are invited :) > > I believe blog posts are not supposed to be reviewed and refined, > especially by the developers. Their time would be better spent on > writing documentation and improving the code. > > If you want to participate in the documentation efforts, I suggest that > you have a look at the GRUB wiki: http://grub.enbug.org/ I agree. IMO, if one thinks that the lack of documentation is a problem, he should make it himself, rather than just complaining. A lot of information is already piled up onto the GRUB wiki and this mailing list, so anybody can achieve this work. (Honestly, I am very pessimistic about this, because of my experience in GRUB Legacy. In this case, many people only complained continuously for years, although they could do themselves. So I had to write the manual myself, merely because I was too tired to see those people any more.) Regards, Okuji