From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1L3ycV-0000Wg-9X for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:58:19 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L3ycT-0000UN-GW for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:58:17 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L3ycS-0000Sl-2Z for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:58:17 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46787 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L3ycR-0000SV-Mv for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:58:15 -0500 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:57553) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L3ycR-0004yn-KN for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:58:15 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=thorin) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1L3ya4-0004x2-67 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:55:48 +0100 Received: from rmh by thorin with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1L3ybu-00025k-5t for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:57:42 +0100 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:57:42 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20081122195742.GB7779@thorin> References: <20081112181128.GA10129@thorin> <491C670F.6050602@nic.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <491C670F.6050602@nic.fi> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: [PATCH] default terminals on i386-pc / i386-ieee1275 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:58:17 -0000 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 07:42:39PM +0200, Vesa Jääskeläinen wrote: > Robert Millan wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I think it would be good to make at_keyboard the default input terminal on > > i386-ieee1275, after the kernel has loaded (via grub-mkconfig). The AT > > keyboard is the only choice on OLPC anyway, and avoids ofconsole bugs > > (this used to be the old behaviour before the terminal split). > > > > Also, I think it would be good to make vga_text the default output terminal > > on i386-pc, provided that gfxterm auto-setup (in grub-mkconfig.in) wasn't > > possible. BIOS output is occasionally buggy (seen in a recent thread), and > > this way we avoid problems. > > And how does this work with USB keyboards that would be supported by > BIOS if configured so... ? On i386-ieee1275, this doesn't really happen, because OFW shuts down USB when handing control to GRUB. Note that using at_keyboard was the existing behaviour up untill recently (it reverted to ofconsole because of the terminal split). On PC/BIOS, my proposed change would only affect terminal output. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."