From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mike Frysinger Subject: Re: mount -o remount problems with ext3 and journal= options in /etc/fstab Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:16:21 -0500 Message-ID: <200811290116.22789.vapier@gentoo.org> References: <200811271447.44837.vapier@gentoo.org> <200811281703.12669.vapier@gentoo.org> <20081129050601.GE3372@mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1438675.XyiTKl27Qb"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Karel Zak , util-linux-ng@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org To: Theodore Tso Return-path: Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([140.211.166.183]:46230 "EHLO smtp.gentoo.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750748AbYK2GQY (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:16:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20081129050601.GE3372@mit.edu> Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: --nextPart1438675.XyiTKl27Qb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 29 November 2008 00:06:01 Theodore Tso wrote: > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 05:03:10PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > well, i guess the first question to ask is, does it make sense to have > > these journal options in /etc/fstab ? > > No, not really. The original intent for journal=update was to update > from a V1 journal superblock to the V2 journal superblock. This > transition happened in around 2001. It was intended to be used to ask > the kernel to do a one-time conversion of the superblock version. > There's no real reason to have this in the kernel; it's the sort of > thing that is much better done in the userspace tools anyway. p > > We should probably remove it from the kernel, actually. There might > be some really ancient 2.4 systems that still have journals with V1 > superblocks, but they are few and far between. > > In any case, if this was going to be in the kernel, it makes > absolutely zero sense for it to be in /etc/fstab. It should only be > something that the user manually specifies when first mounting the > filesystem, and for that reason it's actually better done in a > userspace tool. sounds good. i like rejecting bugs ;). thanks for the summary. -mike --nextPart1438675.XyiTKl27Qb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJJMN42AAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBgNYQANhqVfnHepfZpZN6bJi61s+P 8rqxLKrnn7sLLUd2VAsquoAWWJ4yFK30cGV5y/9E3Wmld0DgzhWBjf/jRtRH+tBq YCl4JmWxoPqvzXWoZvkrHbujnCC9rH9juk4V77zhI2BlIhc6Yr9wVO8RztMlsLUm 4HK/mYLUGhVs1aNMyOKhinyuFUAfy7uX0IpKwecH6qxotKjDcwVgnv9GXp0/MQkC xEYwTUvu/G0Dkv781OtUhHPGPGMt2xC5MYF8fcHjIn8NasBk+ETATw7J9YS5meH3 mnAdqB2aHtrWhlUw+tDUKRRnKed97VIF5DAzTF4Sk6T/GIJRpvzudY5jeYm34aef CWN7/V0FumMYLE9kU4pVSdy4yHLmMUcSxKpYF27XJbVrCKb/gh0oIQdkXnDyMfl3 tkw9LIKRgDZmIGyWyDGmFWx7iWzaKDAeE9DucgAVnpKFjsgupttQU2Zlj5oWpoVX 0X2xNb4t0fEKqTefmA/1YqyV+E1h8A+1fqwejvFIOudeID1wv/T46Z3DcDnAzBLf hthk2UslAaIkYaYDuZmmBSKNudfabKPu5c96rpbyQ19J0DPkwopx0WamGg4LgOzY BX/OqVDMALar6LR/UzfWaGKDQReUHG9zMk8BQ8qIC4e4zz/R3bkCo+CdtsT5Lpa6 Y5c70+3ZZIefiVzENGJX =3h8+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1438675.XyiTKl27Qb--