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From: Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>
To: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, weidong.han@intel.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, avi@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/9] add frontend implementation for the IOMMU API
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 15:07:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081201140711.GA12816@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081201130209.GA21615@il.ibm.com>

On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 03:02:09PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:00:26PM +0100, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> 
> > > > > The majority of the names (include/linux/iommu.h, iommu.c,
> > > > > iommu_ops, etc) looks too generic? We already have lots of
> > > > > similar things (e.g. arch/{x86,ia64}/asm/iommu.h, several
> > > > > archs' iommu.c, etc). Such names are expected to be used by
> > > > > all the IOMMUs.
> > > > 
> > > > The API is already useful for more than KVM. I also plan to
> > > > extend it to support more types of IOMMUs than VT-d and AMD
> > > > IOMMU in the future. But these changes are more intrusive than
> > > > this patchset and need more discussion. I prefer to do small
> > > > steps into this direction.
> > > 
> > > Can you be more specific? What IOMMU could use this? For example,
> > > how GART can use this? I think that people expect the name 'struct
> > > iommu_ops' to be an abstract for all the IOMMUs (or the majority
> > > at least). If this works like that, the name is a good choice, I
> > > think.
> > 
> > GART can't use exactly this. But with some extensions we can make it
> > useful for GART and GART-like IOMMUs too. For example we can emulate
> > domains in GART by partitioning the GART aperture space.
> 
> That would only work with a pvdma API, since GART doesn't support
> multiple address spaces, and you don't get the isolation properties of
> a real IOMMU, so... why would you want to do that?

Yes, this can not be used for not-pv device passthrough. But I think it
can speed up the pvdma case. Beside that I can be used for UIO and
devices which perform bad with sg.

Joerg

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-01 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-27 15:40 [PATCH 0/9] Factor VT-d KVM functions into a generic API Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 1/9] KVM: rename vtd.c to iommu.c Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 16:32   ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-27 17:05     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-11-30 10:12       ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 2/9] introcude linux/iommu.h for an iommu api Joerg Roedel
2008-11-28  2:50   ` Han, Weidong
2008-11-28  2:50     ` Han, Weidong
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 3/9] add frontend implementation for the IOMMU API Joerg Roedel
2008-11-28  2:50   ` Han, Weidong
2008-11-28  2:50     ` Han, Weidong
2008-12-01 18:16     ` 'Joerg Roedel'
2008-11-28  9:40   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-11-28 11:31     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-12-01  8:38       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-12-01 12:00         ` Joerg Roedel
2008-12-01 13:02           ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-12-01 14:07             ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2008-12-01 14:18             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-12-01 14:27               ` Joerg Roedel
2008-12-01 14:33                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-01 15:46                   ` Joerg Roedel
2008-12-01 15:58                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-12-01 16:59                     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-12-01 17:27                     ` Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 4/9] select IOMMU_API when DMAR and/or AMD_IOMMU is selected Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 5/9] VT-d: add domain init and destroy functions for IOMMU API Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 6/9] VT-d: add device attach and detach " Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 7/9] VT-d: add domain map and iova_to_phys " Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 8/9] VT-d: register functions for the " Joerg Roedel
2008-11-28  2:50   ` Han, Weidong
2008-11-28  2:50     ` Han, Weidong
2008-11-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 9/9] KVM: change KVM iommu.c to use " Joerg Roedel
2008-11-27 15:43 ` [osrc-patches] [PATCH 0/9] Factor VT-d KVM functions into a generic API Joerg Roedel

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