From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1LBfNb-00039C-Th for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:02:44 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LBfNa-000393-CB for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:02:42 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LBfNZ-00038r-RR for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:02:42 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60135 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LBfNZ-00038o-N1 for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:02:41 -0500 Received: from aybabtu.com ([69.60.117.155]:40931) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBfNZ-0003L1-6s for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:02:41 -0500 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (helo=printer) by aybabtu.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LBfJ0-000678-PW for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:57:59 +0100 Received: from rmh by printer with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LBfNB-0006md-Dr for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:02:17 +0100 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:02:17 +0100 From: Robert Millan To: The development of GRUB 2 Message-ID: <20081214010217.GA25952@thorin> References: <20080926081627.GA8732@pina.cat> <20080926083411.GA8845@pina.cat> <1222427611.4210.1.camel@fz.local> <20080926121909.GB9530@pina.cat> <20080928133907.GC23805@thorin> <20081207233308.GA15844@pina.cat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081207233308.GA15844@pina.cat> Organization: free as in freedom X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Thunderbird! www.mozilla.com/thunderbird X-Debbugs-No-Ack: true User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: localization of Grub X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:02:42 -0000 On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:33:08AM +0100, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > - gettextise the util tools, so they can be translated as normal programs. > > Do you mean the strings that are generated in standard Linux user-space > and written to grub.cfg? I mean every command produced out of util/. grub-mkconfig, grub-probe, grub-setup, etc. > What do you (everybody in the list) think about the text help that > appears here and there (output of Grub -usually shell- commands?) > Needed? Or these texts are good enough in English (like commands in the > programming languages) I think in long-term it would probably be a good thing to gettextize everything; but short-term we should focus on the util/ part IMHO. > This part is more clear (at least theoretically, of course :-) ) > I understand that all error messages, messages, etc. that Grub prints > while Grub is executing should be translated. > > My understanding is that we should have some module to handle some > function (eg. _()), that would read some variable to choose to which > language, if available, translate some string. Like gettext, as you > said. Yep, something like that. Also, it needs to be registered in a function pointer, so that kernel won't need it unconditionally. > I understand that we/I should adapt some scripts using, for example, this > guideline?: > http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/gettext/Preparing-Shell-Scripts.html Probably. I'm afraid I'm no l10n expert :-( -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."